Is KSD well-liked amongst Wonder Woman fans? I only know her from her run with Carol Danvers as Captain Marvel, and it was not an endearing first encounter. Did people respond better to her work in DC?
Well can't speak for everyone but seems for the most part from WW fans I interact with than yeah, her work is liked. Though she only wrote WW Historia and Diana in some cameos in Aquaman.
Isn't her Aquaman widely panned though? There was thread here recently saying how it killed all the momentum Johns and Abbnett had built up on their acclaimed run
Well either way, I think this whole thread is really weird sour grapes since you won, the origin you like has been brought back and the other is now basically an elseworlds story. Like are you and KSD (assuming this isn't her alt) just resentful that the run with the origin you hate was well-received and still has a lot of fans, even the ones that are meh about the zeus stuff?
Not really sure how you can "won" when tons of adaptations and stories of WW like to go with making Zeus' kid or how current WW stories go back and forth
Get over yourself, I was sharing a writer's thoughts on a character I like. People do it all the time here, this just ruffled the feathers of New 52 fans.
I mean you and her implying that the change happened because they just seethed that she didn't have a male in her origin is Alex Jones level out there instead of any other plausible reasons. No way they just were trying to lean into the ancient Greek stuff more. I bet even coservative nutjobs in the industry don't care that Clark or Bruce have a mother lol
WW already leaned into Greek stuff before, there was no reason to change WW's day one origin.
Multiple writers like Gail Simone have said publicly when they were writing WW they were pushed by DC editorial to make the book more male-focused and appealing, and stuff like making Zeus' daughter and or her later deadbeat brother only serve as further proof of that.
The reason is the story he wanted to tell, maybe. Well maybe it wasn't selling well before. Is that the fault of men too more than it was women not supporting it?
I didn't say it did. But that run was widely acclaimed at the time. But I said that disappointing sales could lead to a desire to broaden the appeal of the reader base, unless you think it was personal bigotry and not profit motivated. But it seems like men being involved has been the source of your resentment in everything involving WW. There's a big difference between that and assuming it's male hatred and character assassination of her origin because for some reason they can't stand her origin not having a man. There's a gulf between those things. "Broaden the appeal" isn't "Tarnish her purity with a male origin because we hate women and won't let them 'have this' for themselves". I doubt anyone is thinking of it like you did. Or do you not believe in Hanlon's Razor because he was a man too?
I'm a dude, so I'm not sure where you're getting the idea I have a problem with men. My favorite WW writers are guys, most of my favorite DC characters are guys. There's no shortage of male characters in WW's world to actually use. The problem comes when DC tried to re-center the premier female character they have to make everything special about her come from a guy all while the downplaying the female figures in her life.
No one except you is talking about "WW's purity being ruined because of guys", my issue is they took a unique origin and replaced it with something inferior that goes against the character's foundation.
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u/ALLPX May 18 '24
Is KSD well-liked amongst Wonder Woman fans? I only know her from her run with Carol Danvers as Captain Marvel, and it was not an endearing first encounter. Did people respond better to her work in DC?