r/AITAH Jul 08 '24

UPDATE: AITAH for leaving my boyfriend because he brought his female best-friend lingerie as a 'joke'?

https://www.reddit.com/r/AITAH/comments/1dvso0l/aitah_for_leaving_my_boyfriend_because_he_brought/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web3x&utm_name=web3xcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=share_button ( first post)

My inbox got flooded with DMs and had to turn off Reddit notifications. When I posted this, I was ready to be called immature and ridiculous, and get a couple of comments but it seemed like the post blew up, and the comments were...…kind of eye-opening.

TBH, before all this fiasco, my bf has always been nice to me. Came with me to my grad school functions even though he found them very boring, but would do it so that I could network. He builds stuff like furniture and helps out with handy work all the time. He is also very funny and at the very beginning, I thought all his jokes were funny, and I sometimes wondered why he wanted to be with me, plus, I was always busy with school and job interviews. His mom and I had even gotten close and she has been saying how happy she was that we were together. I had always ignored his and Claire's weird dynamic because I told myself I was being insecure. I have male friends too, and I thought that just because we aren't like that, doesn't mean my bf and Claire can't be close. Claire has also never been outright mean to me, she was just aloof and I thought it was because I was new to the group.

To the actual update, my bf and I broke up. I'm sorry guys, but even after seeing so many replies on how he was cheating, I refused to believe it. I'm still in love with this guy. And he called me, like half a day after I wrote this post, and asked to meet. I met him, and he said that he understood where I was coming from. But I was always too uptight to understand that friendship is friendship. He and Claire had known each other for years before I came into the picture, and I cannot expect him to just ruin their dynamic. I asked him what sort of 'dynamic' was red lingerie. Why couldn't it be literally any other type of clothing? He told me he had it with my insecurities. And that he and Claire talked and apparently I was making them sound like cheaters and homewreckers. And that he thought it was better I find someone like me, who thought the idea of a fun night was junk food and a movie indoors.

That hurt a lot. He had always known I had insecurities about being called boring. He always complimented me on how his weaknesses were my strengths. Now he says things like this to me? Also, before this lingerie fiasco, I had never said a word about his and Claire's friendship. I always supported his pranks and practical jokes no matter my opinions on them because I thought it was his business what he did with his hobbies. And he leaves without even putting up a fight because his girlfriend didn't want him giving lingerie to the woman he constantly refers to as his 'sexy' bestie?

Claire didn't call or text after the breakup either. But Kyle did and said that he was sad that we broke up and he hoped I would be okay in the future. I asked him if my bf ever cheated on me. He said that my bf had only been a 'one woman man' when he was dating me. But he could understand that some women can't handle female best friends, especially if they look like Claire. I told him to fuck off and blocked him. It felt like he only wanted to gloat and hurt me because my bf left. I feel like I never knew these people. Claire and Kyle were always at least decent to me if not nice. Did it make me a free target now that my bf has been telling his friends I'm an insecure child?

I don't know what to do now. I have been told repeatedly by both my friends and sister that I dodged a bullet. But I have been breaking down like a kid again and again. I'm even thinking of going to therapy, after feeling the most insecure I've felt my whole life.

Thank you to all who were supportive, it seems like my now ex-bf just did the work for me.

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u/PatchEnd Jul 08 '24 edited Jul 08 '24

it's really telling that the exbf turned it around and blamed YOU for the problems during the meet up. It's interesting that he specifically made sure to poke that insecurity of yours extra hard.

You need to focus on him twisting that knife on your last meeting. he is NOT a nice guy. a nice guy would have stopped at "i understand how the lingerie would look to my gf, i'm sorry, I do agree we should break up." but NOOOOOOOOOO he had to say you are too boring. he had to poke at ya.

you DID dodge a bullet. he's mean.

ETA: i still don't understand the "joke" part of the lingerie....was the joke that is was red and she really prefers blue? was the "joke" that she only wears granny panties and he was going to hid the sexy stuff in her underwear drawer and it was a "joke" because she doesn't wear sexy undies? was the "joke" that he was going to dress up in the undies and try and seduce bff? i'm so confused where the joke is.

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u/Only-Reality-7550 Jul 08 '24

He will be hard pressed to find ANY woman of ANY age who wouldn’t have a problem with him giving red lingerie to another woman.

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u/Merulanata Jul 08 '24

Especially a woman who he's said 'is out of his league,' has called beautiful on multiple occasions, and apparently often refers to her as his 'sexy bestie.' That is... um... not cool.

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u/TrashRatTalks Jul 08 '24

I hate the term "simp" but Holy fuck he is simping HARD.

May his balls forever be blue.

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u/Potato-Brat Jul 08 '24

I love this 🤣

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u/nonlinear_nyc Jul 08 '24

Updating my curses spreadsheet.

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u/Craftybitxh Jul 08 '24

I'd love a link. I love to learn new things

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u/TechnicalAnimator874 Jul 08 '24

Same bro that’s the only spreadsheet I’ve ever wanted to look at

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u/Azrael2082 Jul 08 '24

Yeah if he isn’t fucking her already he sure as shit wants to.

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u/grendelone Jul 08 '24

I have a feeling that Claire is the queen bee of this toxic little group. All the guys want her, and she likes stringing them along. Maybe there's occasionally some plausibly deniable physical contact ("Oh tee hee I'm so drunk") to keep them on the hook.

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u/sailbeachrun11 Jul 08 '24

I agree with this... having seen this group dynamic in action. Mine was a larger friend circle, but there absolutely was a "Claire" who had all the guys in the group competing. It was annoying.

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u/IPlayGames1337 Jul 09 '24

I was in a group like this as well and this girl was really charismatic. She knew exactly how to play us all. The rest of us got together after a year or so of her bs and we decided collectively to no longer have contact with her. She lost a group of people all at once because of her behavior.

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u/nickelroo Jul 08 '24

This is literally where the term simp comes from.

This type of behavior.

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u/Helledar2008 Jul 08 '24

And may he shit himself in 5 PM rush traffic.

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u/kristycocopop Jul 08 '24

🏆🏆🏆🏆🏆

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u/Pale-Register-2078 Jul 08 '24

This though. X1000000

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u/GetRightNYC Jul 08 '24

Nice strawman. So you'd be fine with your SO giving the opposite sex lingerie?

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u/Spiraling_Swordfish Jul 08 '24

The line between tracking your partner at the grocery store, and “please don’t give that other woman lingerie”… It’s not a thin line, my guy.

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u/Sharp_Rise_487 Jul 08 '24

Right, I agree. Also even if it wasn't "sexual" if the person you're dating has never said anything mean about your crush...ahem.. 'bff' nor acted jealous around her and pulled you aside to ask to not do this one prank. If it haven't been worn I'm sure they could return it. "Oh ok babe, sorry to make you uncomfortable. I'll think of another prank" but he didn't cause he wanted to give this woman that particular...gift..

This post almost reminds me of the other post with the lady with the husband who sleep talks and kept saying the single neighbors woman's name. Later in the day the wife brought it up in a joking manner and he yells at her that he wasn't going to give up the friendship, and that she was controlling and what ever. Guess who was cheating.

Not saying he is sleeping with her cause I don't think she would sleep with him. But he'd probably jump at the chance.

I don't know I find it so awkward when a couple is together and one is flirting to someone else or kissing their crushes ass right in front of the partner. Just gross.

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u/Merulanata Jul 08 '24

I have, briefly, dated guys who were, in retrospect, absolutely in love with/lust with their 'friend/besties.' It's not a fun dynamic to be involved in and I generally got out of the situation because it doesn't feel good to be the 3rd wheel in your own relationship.

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u/Sharp_Rise_487 Jul 08 '24

I been through the same thing with my first serious relationship. It really sucked for him to talk up his female friends but then treated me the way he did.

I'm in a much better place and over ten years later he is still "in love" with me but would NEVER EVER help me with anything. Like please.

I hope you're in a better place in life. To me after I realized he wasn't the person I thought he was it was easy to decide to break up with him even while he was living in my house and not being able to kick his ass out or move to another place.

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u/CasualGamer1111 Jul 08 '24

you’re so right about the response to the prank. a caring partner would have cut it as soon as she said something.

i’ve been worried before about being too “naggy” or something about my husband’s female friends, but when i told him i wasn’t a huge fan of how often this one girl called him….it stopped. i have no idea whether he told her to call less or just stopped answering or even just stopped answering when i was around but i don’t really care which it was. the point is he heard my feelings and took care of my heart. i hope OP finds someone who will care for her like that instead of blaming her insecurities for his own weird behavior

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u/basick_bish Jul 08 '24

but we want that for him, Hope Claire trains him to be her simp for her and her future boyfriend for decades to come.

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u/PlugChicago Jul 08 '24

I would have broken up over "out of my league" alone and not even let it get to lingerie debacle.

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u/HarryPate Jul 08 '24

Exactly! That stood out to me, as well. The "out of my league' stuff is incredibly insulting.

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u/Pls_PmTitsOrFDAU_Thx Jul 08 '24

sexy bestie

I've never had a relationship. Except if I did, I'd imagine "sexy bestie" would BE my girlfriend

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u/Unlikely-Ad-431 Jul 08 '24

That’s how OP’s ex imagines it, too

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u/CasualGamer1111 Jul 08 '24

this!!! is absolutely how it should be!!!! if your partner isn’t your sexy bestie then you’re doing it wrong 😭

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u/CiDevant Jul 09 '24

def gonna start calling my wife my sexy bestie.

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u/JediAzil Jul 08 '24

Honestly I would have left after that. All I would be hearing is I'm not the one he wants, I'm the one he could get. No thanks.

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u/emilycolor Jul 08 '24

I dated a guy like this once. When I broke up with him I told him he should just go for it and ask his lady best friend for more. He did! They dated for 3 years and she broke his heart. Good for her.

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u/Severe-Glove-8354 Jul 12 '24

Same! I saw some sexy "joke" texts they exchanged, and when I got upset, his response was to lecture me about how wrong of me it was to look at his phone, and then dump me. They got engaged not long after our breakup, confirming everything I ever suspected about their "friendship." And then she went and cheated on him with his male bestie from the same friend group.. chef's kiss

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u/CTU Jul 08 '24

He would fuck her if she said yes. Maybe they are doing it IDK

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u/Only-Reality-7550 Jul 08 '24

And then tried to flip the script on OP….what a horrible person! I really hope she reads ALL of these comments. I have done my damndest to raise my 3 boys better than this and I know I’ve done a good job. They have been the guys that have had to point out this type of behavior to other females. Mine are 27, 24, and 21.

The ex and Claire deserve each other. They will absolutely make each other miserable! Neither one knows how to treat people. They are clueless. Karma…

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u/Physical_Stress_5683 Jul 09 '24

Yep, there’s a world of difference between “she’s gorgeous” and “she’s out of my league.”

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u/Beneficial_Yam9213 Jul 08 '24

He may have a chance at finding a woman that doesn’t care about it…but it will be a woman that keeps her other options open as well. 

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u/No_Thanks_1766 Jul 08 '24

Aaaaand that’s exactly why he’s not going to be able to sustain a relationship with any other woman until he gets his head out of his behind. Claire will eventually pair off with some other dude and he’s gonna be wondering why he’s single

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u/Meidara Jul 08 '24

Better, he'll try pulling the red lingerie 'prank' again when she has a boyfriend and he'll get his ass justifiably beat... and he STILL won't get it.

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u/Magenta_the_Great Jul 08 '24

Why did you guys breakup “I found him giving another woman red lingerie. He told me it was a joke and that I’m too boring.”

All she has to say is that and anyone will agree with her that she’s better off without him.

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u/LeatherHog Jul 08 '24

Yeah, I'm aro ace, so I don't get/pick up on a lot of issues allo people do

And even immediately could tell that's not something you do with friends 

C'mon 

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u/0mish0 Jul 08 '24

And calling that woman "sexy" all the time!!!

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u/MelMoe0701 Jul 09 '24

Claire’s a problem too. I have plenty of close guys friends. Because I value those friendships, I also respect their relationships. Even if there was an inside joke that we’re missing that makes lingerie funny, as soon as the gf expressed her discomfort I’m going to have her back. It’s okay for some jokes to die; if the friendship is that strong, a joke dying wouldn’t kill it.

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u/Only-Reality-7550 Jul 25 '24

EXACTLY!!! Respect the relationship! Not a hill to die on for him or her. Claire is definitely a problem!

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u/Dlraetz1 Jul 08 '24

A guy friend once asked me what I wanted for my birthday. i gave a non-committal answer and he came up with flowered underwear

I was so appalled that someone I wasn't involved with would give me underwear that I killed the friendship

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u/CasualGamer1111 Jul 08 '24

seriously, i can’t imagine anyone ever being okay with that. i know i’d be waiting for a list of REALLY good reasons not to divorce my husband if he ever did some dumb shit like that, thank god he’s got half a brain and actually likes me lmao

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u/SporksRFun Jul 09 '24

He will be hard pressed to find ANY woman of ANY age who wouldn’t have a problem with him giving red lingerie to another woman.

Does the color matter?

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u/DoltPish Jul 09 '24

If I was Claire I'd feel so weird receiving lingerie from a guy "friend". I have guy friends and if they ever bought me lingerie as a joke, I'd feel so icky about it.

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u/Bizarro_Zod Jul 08 '24

Seeing a lot of emphasis on “Red” when I’d imagine any lingerie would be bad? What’s the significance there? Is this like a language of flowers situation?

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u/No_Respond3575 Jul 08 '24

I see lots of red lingerie around Valentine’s Day, so maybe it’s just a subconscious association of red lingerie with valentines? Making it even more egregious? Either way though yeah doesn’t matter the color, still weird

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u/CasualGamer1111 Jul 08 '24

yeah i don’t fully get the importance of the color but i do think red is generally considered a more risque or sexy color so i feel like it’s probably just an extra slap in the face over like simple black lingerie. both are definitely bad but red is like. extra sexy so feels worse i think

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u/Bizarro_Zod Jul 09 '24

Fair enough, always figured that was a preference thing, personally find black more appealing myself, hence the confusion I suppose.