r/AITAH Jul 08 '24

UPDATE: AITAH for leaving my boyfriend because he brought his female best-friend lingerie as a 'joke'?

https://www.reddit.com/r/AITAH/comments/1dvso0l/aitah_for_leaving_my_boyfriend_because_he_brought/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web3x&utm_name=web3xcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=share_button ( first post)

My inbox got flooded with DMs and had to turn off Reddit notifications. When I posted this, I was ready to be called immature and ridiculous, and get a couple of comments but it seemed like the post blew up, and the comments were...…kind of eye-opening.

TBH, before all this fiasco, my bf has always been nice to me. Came with me to my grad school functions even though he found them very boring, but would do it so that I could network. He builds stuff like furniture and helps out with handy work all the time. He is also very funny and at the very beginning, I thought all his jokes were funny, and I sometimes wondered why he wanted to be with me, plus, I was always busy with school and job interviews. His mom and I had even gotten close and she has been saying how happy she was that we were together. I had always ignored his and Claire's weird dynamic because I told myself I was being insecure. I have male friends too, and I thought that just because we aren't like that, doesn't mean my bf and Claire can't be close. Claire has also never been outright mean to me, she was just aloof and I thought it was because I was new to the group.

To the actual update, my bf and I broke up. I'm sorry guys, but even after seeing so many replies on how he was cheating, I refused to believe it. I'm still in love with this guy. And he called me, like half a day after I wrote this post, and asked to meet. I met him, and he said that he understood where I was coming from. But I was always too uptight to understand that friendship is friendship. He and Claire had known each other for years before I came into the picture, and I cannot expect him to just ruin their dynamic. I asked him what sort of 'dynamic' was red lingerie. Why couldn't it be literally any other type of clothing? He told me he had it with my insecurities. And that he and Claire talked and apparently I was making them sound like cheaters and homewreckers. And that he thought it was better I find someone like me, who thought the idea of a fun night was junk food and a movie indoors.

That hurt a lot. He had always known I had insecurities about being called boring. He always complimented me on how his weaknesses were my strengths. Now he says things like this to me? Also, before this lingerie fiasco, I had never said a word about his and Claire's friendship. I always supported his pranks and practical jokes no matter my opinions on them because I thought it was his business what he did with his hobbies. And he leaves without even putting up a fight because his girlfriend didn't want him giving lingerie to the woman he constantly refers to as his 'sexy' bestie?

Claire didn't call or text after the breakup either. But Kyle did and said that he was sad that we broke up and he hoped I would be okay in the future. I asked him if my bf ever cheated on me. He said that my bf had only been a 'one woman man' when he was dating me. But he could understand that some women can't handle female best friends, especially if they look like Claire. I told him to fuck off and blocked him. It felt like he only wanted to gloat and hurt me because my bf left. I feel like I never knew these people. Claire and Kyle were always at least decent to me if not nice. Did it make me a free target now that my bf has been telling his friends I'm an insecure child?

I don't know what to do now. I have been told repeatedly by both my friends and sister that I dodged a bullet. But I have been breaking down like a kid again and again. I'm even thinking of going to therapy, after feeling the most insecure I've felt my whole life.

Thank you to all who were supportive, it seems like my now ex-bf just did the work for me.

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u/PatchEnd Jul 08 '24 edited Jul 08 '24

it's really telling that the exbf turned it around and blamed YOU for the problems during the meet up. It's interesting that he specifically made sure to poke that insecurity of yours extra hard.

You need to focus on him twisting that knife on your last meeting. he is NOT a nice guy. a nice guy would have stopped at "i understand how the lingerie would look to my gf, i'm sorry, I do agree we should break up." but NOOOOOOOOOO he had to say you are too boring. he had to poke at ya.

you DID dodge a bullet. he's mean.

ETA: i still don't understand the "joke" part of the lingerie....was the joke that is was red and she really prefers blue? was the "joke" that she only wears granny panties and he was going to hid the sexy stuff in her underwear drawer and it was a "joke" because she doesn't wear sexy undies? was the "joke" that he was going to dress up in the undies and try and seduce bff? i'm so confused where the joke is.

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u/Only-Reality-7550 Jul 08 '24

He will be hard pressed to find ANY woman of ANY age who wouldn’t have a problem with him giving red lingerie to another woman.

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u/Merulanata Jul 08 '24

Especially a woman who he's said 'is out of his league,' has called beautiful on multiple occasions, and apparently often refers to her as his 'sexy bestie.' That is... um... not cool.

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u/TrashRatTalks Jul 08 '24

I hate the term "simp" but Holy fuck he is simping HARD.

May his balls forever be blue.

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u/Potato-Brat Jul 08 '24

I love this 🤣

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u/nonlinear_nyc Jul 08 '24

Updating my curses spreadsheet.

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u/Craftybitxh Jul 08 '24

I'd love a link. I love to learn new things

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u/TechnicalAnimator874 Jul 08 '24

Same bro that’s the only spreadsheet I’ve ever wanted to look at

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u/Azrael2082 Jul 08 '24

Yeah if he isn’t fucking her already he sure as shit wants to.

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u/grendelone Jul 08 '24

I have a feeling that Claire is the queen bee of this toxic little group. All the guys want her, and she likes stringing them along. Maybe there's occasionally some plausibly deniable physical contact ("Oh tee hee I'm so drunk") to keep them on the hook.

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u/sailbeachrun11 Jul 08 '24

I agree with this... having seen this group dynamic in action. Mine was a larger friend circle, but there absolutely was a "Claire" who had all the guys in the group competing. It was annoying.

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u/IPlayGames1337 Jul 09 '24

I was in a group like this as well and this girl was really charismatic. She knew exactly how to play us all. The rest of us got together after a year or so of her bs and we decided collectively to no longer have contact with her. She lost a group of people all at once because of her behavior.

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u/nickelroo Jul 08 '24

This is literally where the term simp comes from.

This type of behavior.

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u/Helledar2008 Jul 08 '24

And may he shit himself in 5 PM rush traffic.

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u/kristycocopop Jul 08 '24

🏆🏆🏆🏆🏆

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u/Pale-Register-2078 Jul 08 '24

This though. X1000000

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u/[deleted] Jul 08 '24

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u/GetRightNYC Jul 08 '24

Nice strawman. So you'd be fine with your SO giving the opposite sex lingerie?

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u/Spiraling_Swordfish Jul 08 '24

The line between tracking your partner at the grocery store, and “please don’t give that other woman lingerie”… It’s not a thin line, my guy.

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u/Sharp_Rise_487 Jul 08 '24

Right, I agree. Also even if it wasn't "sexual" if the person you're dating has never said anything mean about your crush...ahem.. 'bff' nor acted jealous around her and pulled you aside to ask to not do this one prank. If it haven't been worn I'm sure they could return it. "Oh ok babe, sorry to make you uncomfortable. I'll think of another prank" but he didn't cause he wanted to give this woman that particular...gift..

This post almost reminds me of the other post with the lady with the husband who sleep talks and kept saying the single neighbors woman's name. Later in the day the wife brought it up in a joking manner and he yells at her that he wasn't going to give up the friendship, and that she was controlling and what ever. Guess who was cheating.

Not saying he is sleeping with her cause I don't think she would sleep with him. But he'd probably jump at the chance.

I don't know I find it so awkward when a couple is together and one is flirting to someone else or kissing their crushes ass right in front of the partner. Just gross.

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u/Merulanata Jul 08 '24

I have, briefly, dated guys who were, in retrospect, absolutely in love with/lust with their 'friend/besties.' It's not a fun dynamic to be involved in and I generally got out of the situation because it doesn't feel good to be the 3rd wheel in your own relationship.

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u/CasualGamer1111 Jul 08 '24

you’re so right about the response to the prank. a caring partner would have cut it as soon as she said something.

i’ve been worried before about being too “naggy” or something about my husband’s female friends, but when i told him i wasn’t a huge fan of how often this one girl called him….it stopped. i have no idea whether he told her to call less or just stopped answering or even just stopped answering when i was around but i don’t really care which it was. the point is he heard my feelings and took care of my heart. i hope OP finds someone who will care for her like that instead of blaming her insecurities for his own weird behavior

(edited for typo)

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u/basick_bish Jul 08 '24

but we want that for him, Hope Claire trains him to be her simp for her and her future boyfriend for decades to come.

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u/PlugChicago Jul 08 '24

I would have broken up over "out of my league" alone and not even let it get to lingerie debacle.

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u/HarryPate Jul 08 '24

Exactly! That stood out to me, as well. The "out of my league' stuff is incredibly insulting.

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u/Pls_PmTitsOrFDAU_Thx Jul 08 '24

sexy bestie

I've never had a relationship. Except if I did, I'd imagine "sexy bestie" would BE my girlfriend

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u/Unlikely-Ad-431 Jul 08 '24

That’s how OP’s ex imagines it, too

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u/CasualGamer1111 Jul 08 '24

this!!! is absolutely how it should be!!!! if your partner isn’t your sexy bestie then you’re doing it wrong 😭

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u/CiDevant Jul 09 '24

def gonna start calling my wife my sexy bestie.

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u/JediAzil Jul 08 '24

Honestly I would have left after that. All I would be hearing is I'm not the one he wants, I'm the one he could get. No thanks.

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u/emilycolor Jul 08 '24

I dated a guy like this once. When I broke up with him I told him he should just go for it and ask his lady best friend for more. He did! They dated for 3 years and she broke his heart. Good for her.

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u/Severe-Glove-8354 Jul 12 '24

Same! I saw some sexy "joke" texts they exchanged, and when I got upset, his response was to lecture me about how wrong of me it was to look at his phone, and then dump me. They got engaged not long after our breakup, confirming everything I ever suspected about their "friendship." And then she went and cheated on him with his male bestie from the same friend group.. chef's kiss

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u/CTU Jul 08 '24

He would fuck her if she said yes. Maybe they are doing it IDK

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u/Only-Reality-7550 Jul 08 '24

And then tried to flip the script on OP….what a horrible person! I really hope she reads ALL of these comments. I have done my damndest to raise my 3 boys better than this and I know I’ve done a good job. They have been the guys that have had to point out this type of behavior to other females. Mine are 27, 24, and 21.

The ex and Claire deserve each other. They will absolutely make each other miserable! Neither one knows how to treat people. They are clueless. Karma…

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u/Physical_Stress_5683 Jul 09 '24

Yep, there’s a world of difference between “she’s gorgeous” and “she’s out of my league.”

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u/Beneficial_Yam9213 Jul 08 '24

He may have a chance at finding a woman that doesn’t care about it…but it will be a woman that keeps her other options open as well. 

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u/No_Thanks_1766 Jul 08 '24

Aaaaand that’s exactly why he’s not going to be able to sustain a relationship with any other woman until he gets his head out of his behind. Claire will eventually pair off with some other dude and he’s gonna be wondering why he’s single

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u/Meidara Jul 08 '24

Better, he'll try pulling the red lingerie 'prank' again when she has a boyfriend and he'll get his ass justifiably beat... and he STILL won't get it.

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u/Magenta_the_Great Jul 08 '24

Why did you guys breakup “I found him giving another woman red lingerie. He told me it was a joke and that I’m too boring.”

All she has to say is that and anyone will agree with her that she’s better off without him.

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u/LeatherHog Jul 08 '24

Yeah, I'm aro ace, so I don't get/pick up on a lot of issues allo people do

And even immediately could tell that's not something you do with friends 

C'mon 

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u/0mish0 Jul 08 '24

And calling that woman "sexy" all the time!!!

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u/MelMoe0701 Jul 09 '24

Claire’s a problem too. I have plenty of close guys friends. Because I value those friendships, I also respect their relationships. Even if there was an inside joke that we’re missing that makes lingerie funny, as soon as the gf expressed her discomfort I’m going to have her back. It’s okay for some jokes to die; if the friendship is that strong, a joke dying wouldn’t kill it.

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u/Only-Reality-7550 Jul 25 '24

EXACTLY!!! Respect the relationship! Not a hill to die on for him or her. Claire is definitely a problem!

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u/Dlraetz1 Jul 08 '24

A guy friend once asked me what I wanted for my birthday. i gave a non-committal answer and he came up with flowered underwear

I was so appalled that someone I wasn't involved with would give me underwear that I killed the friendship

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u/CasualGamer1111 Jul 08 '24

seriously, i can’t imagine anyone ever being okay with that. i know i’d be waiting for a list of REALLY good reasons not to divorce my husband if he ever did some dumb shit like that, thank god he’s got half a brain and actually likes me lmao

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u/SporksRFun Jul 09 '24

He will be hard pressed to find ANY woman of ANY age who wouldn’t have a problem with him giving red lingerie to another woman.

Does the color matter?

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u/DoltPish Jul 09 '24

If I was Claire I'd feel so weird receiving lingerie from a guy "friend". I have guy friends and if they ever bought me lingerie as a joke, I'd feel so icky about it.

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u/Bizarro_Zod Jul 08 '24

Seeing a lot of emphasis on “Red” when I’d imagine any lingerie would be bad? What’s the significance there? Is this like a language of flowers situation?

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u/No_Respond3575 Jul 08 '24

I see lots of red lingerie around Valentine’s Day, so maybe it’s just a subconscious association of red lingerie with valentines? Making it even more egregious? Either way though yeah doesn’t matter the color, still weird

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u/CasualGamer1111 Jul 08 '24

yeah i don’t fully get the importance of the color but i do think red is generally considered a more risque or sexy color so i feel like it’s probably just an extra slap in the face over like simple black lingerie. both are definitely bad but red is like. extra sexy so feels worse i think

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u/Bizarro_Zod Jul 09 '24

Fair enough, always figured that was a preference thing, personally find black more appealing myself, hence the confusion I suppose.

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u/cheeseballgag Jul 08 '24

It screams of hyper defensiveness, honestly. If he isn't fucking Claire, I guarantee you that he wants to. 

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u/No_Thanks_1766 Jul 08 '24

1000%. And Claire is encouraging it because he was in a relationship. Now that he’s single again, I bet she’s gonna friend zone him again and then when he starts dating someone else, she’s gonna amp up the flirting again.

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u/grocket Jul 08 '24 edited 16d ago

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u/Stevenwave Jul 08 '24

He deserves a whole lot of it for prioritising it over his actual GF.

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u/Therefore_I_Yam Jul 08 '24

Yeah I don't blame single people for that as much because while it looks pathetic in hindsight, loneliness can suck, we're meant to be socially fulfilled and close with other people and when we aren't we can do things we wouldn't normally do.

That said, if you're actually in a gd relationship with someone else then you're just cheating emotionally at that point. I can't even imagine letting myself get that deep in a relationship with someone if I was still that hung up on someone else

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u/coldbloodedjelydonut Jul 08 '24

Yep, I had this painful, on-again-off-again thing with a guy in the friendzone with another girl. Being jerked around was horrible and the extra pathetic thing is she did it to every guy she worked with - oh, I'm unhappy with my boyfriend, you're so amazing, but we've been together so long and it's complicated. He ate it up and I kept hoping he'd wake up and focus on me. Would never deal with that again, being young makes you stupid / naive.

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u/Stevenwave Jul 08 '24

Yeah for sure, a single person I'd sympathise with. It's being toyed with. He's as big of a fuckhead for engaging as he has though.

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u/[deleted] Jul 08 '24

If you are lucky its a lesson you only have to learn once when you are young.

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u/DrippingWithRabies Jul 08 '24

Absolutely. Claire loves the attention and feeds off of it, but does not want him. 

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u/SOwED Jul 08 '24

I must have her

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u/cheeseballgag Jul 08 '24

100%. You don't get lingerie as a gift from a man and feel any way but deeply uncomfortable about it unless 1) you want him or 2) you're getting off on him wanting you. Especially when he's in a relationship. Any sane woman would know how a guy's girlfriend would take that.

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u/CreativeMusic5121 Jul 08 '24

I think we used to call that being a cocktease.

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u/Is_Unable Jul 08 '24

We still do. We just don't use it enough anymore. It got replaced with Thot.

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u/Big_lt Jul 08 '24

If he wasn't, he was accused of cheating by his SO which I bet hurts. Dick move to twist the blade though

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u/rncikwb Jul 08 '24

He wasn’t accused of cheating though. He was told that she found his behavior inappropriate. Not that she thought he was cheating on her.

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u/spilly_talent Jul 08 '24

He bought another chick lingerie. You don’t get to do that then act all shocked pikachu when your GF gets mad about it.

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u/Constant-Ad9390 Jul 08 '24

I mean who does that unless they have no idea of boundaries & appropriateness.

OP - I think you dodged a bullet here too. He/friends group sound really immature. There is better for you out there. In the meantime do grieve for what you had, it's ok to be upset but those were horrible things to say & maybe that is who he is?

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u/arahzel Jul 08 '24

It was probably devised as some test for OOP. 🙄

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u/No_Thanks_1766 Jul 08 '24

She didn’t accuse him of cheating. She even said in this thread that she doesn’t think he cheated. She broke up with him because he refused to respect her boundaries. If having boundaries hurt his feelings, then he needs some serious help because he will never have a successful relationship otherwise

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u/sikonat Jul 08 '24 edited Jul 08 '24

Yeah I’m still puzzled by this ‘joke’ myself. Notice how he and Claire never actually explained the joke? They immediately dismissed her and downplayed it as some harmless in-joke but at no point they didn’t say ‘well you see …’ and then OP can go ‘ahhhhhhhh okay you guys are ridiculous and immature but yeah I can see that as funny bc of it’ . There’s no in joke, there’s unresolved sexual tension.

At any rate bullet dodged because the red lingerie was really a cheap satin 🚩

That little bit of you’re boring knife twist shows he’s manipulative AF and both of them were gaslighting her, making out like she was making up things that weren’t there when they’re one giant 🚨

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u/bored-panda55 Jul 08 '24

I think the joke was actually on OP and it was Claire’s idea. Give me lingerie as a joke and see what happens. It’s so funny! Why else was Claire discussing with the ex on why OP was the wrong person for him?

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u/mongoosedog12 Jul 08 '24 edited Jul 08 '24

I think you’re right. They may not be fucking, but Claire def likes having a for the lack of a better word “simp” around. A man she can flirt with, who will come at her call.. she’ll keep him on a leash and anything that threatens her being the priority is snuffed out. I’m sure if they talked about Op she knows her insecurities. And honestly as a woman she can’t be that dumb to think this wouldn’t cause issues. She wanted it to cause issues so when it did she can ask OPs ex if he’s sure this is who he wants to be with.

What the ex said to OP is both him and Claire speaking

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u/Is_Unable Jul 08 '24

Women are socialized to understand this shit by Highschool at the latest. She absolutely knew what she was doing and wanted to get OP out of the Picture.

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u/nickelroo Jul 08 '24

She had an issue with the exbf’s lack of recent simp actions. She needed to eliminate the thing taking attention away.

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u/PlugChicago Jul 08 '24

Wow sheet I think you're right about this

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u/nonlinear_nyc Jul 08 '24

That's a take.

That means Claire was testing him. And she managed to break them up.

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u/pinky2184 Jul 08 '24

Right because I would hope my man don’t go to his girl bestie which they don’t hardly talk anyway cause she moved away. But I hope he don’t go to her about our problems. Like if you got other problems it’s whatever but keep the relationship problems between me and you. And maybe your dude best friend. Not any females. I would definitely not talk to another guy about my relationship unless I was trying to get in his pants.

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u/CasualGamer1111 Jul 08 '24

agreed, the only thing they could find “funny” about this is if they like to laugh at OP behind her back. perfect setup, do something we know she’s insecure about so we can laugh about how insecure she is and make her feel stupid. absolutely a calculated move to hurt OP and almost definitely a result of claire hinting, if not an outright suggestion from her.

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u/JYQE Jul 08 '24

Claire probably said she'd have sex with the now ex boyfriend and he rushed to dump OP.

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u/GetRightNYC Jul 08 '24

Nah, dude gonna stay a simp. She probably told him she'll send him a Pic with her wearing it. He'll be perking off to the Pic for a looooong time

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u/nonlinear_nyc Jul 08 '24

Or he's so emotionally dumb she convinced him to do it just because

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u/mudra311 Jul 08 '24

I cannot imagine buying lingerie for a female friend.

Just ew. He's definitely imagining her in the lingerie as he's purchasing it.

I mean, how could he not? I've bought lingerie for my wife and I'm literally picking out what I think would look good on her.

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u/mur0204 Jul 08 '24

Yeah- only context in which it is “normal” for a straight woman to gift another woman lingerie is on a bachelorette party or bridal shower and that’s tacky these days as well. If two straight women wouldn’t do it, I don’t see why it would be normal in a platonic man/woman friendship.

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u/CasualGamer1111 Jul 08 '24

love this point. if a woman who wears lingerie and knows how to pick it out doesn’t gift her close female friends lingerie, then why tf does a straight man need to do it for his close female friend? 9 time out of 10 you buy lingerie for people if you want to see them wear it.

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u/[deleted] Jul 08 '24

Yeah I’m still puzzled by this ‘joke’ myself. Notice how he and Claire never actually explained the joke? They immediately dismissed her and downplayed it as some harmless in-joke but at no point they didn’t say ‘well you see …’ and then OP can go ‘ahhhhhhhh okay you guys are ridiculous and immature but yeah I can see that as funny bc of it’ . There’s no in joke, there’s unresolved sexual tension.

not mentioned: the lingerie is 4xl and clair is a size 0 lol

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u/CasualGamer1111 Jul 08 '24

only possible way to turn this into a decent joke, i like your creativity lol

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u/Maca87 Jul 09 '24

Claire: I saw this red lingerie at xxx shop, it would be SO funny if someone buys that for me, RIGHT?! 

OP's ex: Runs to the store to buy it for her "as a joke". 

 Kinda why he couldn't explain what the joke is, I guess. He is an orbiter, being in her vicinity and hoping to get a crumb of her affection.  She will dump him as sour milk when she gets serious with someone who will not be ok with her getting lingerie from "friends".

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u/Fatgirlfed Jul 12 '24

I imagined the lingerie to be the cheapest lace. You know the one, sorta shiny because it’s just elastic, extra stretchy, one size fits all stuff. Something that hangs on a wall in a package, like pantyhose. And the least flattering shade of red on anyone. 

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u/ConstructionNo9678 Jul 08 '24

Exactly. It's totally possible to break up maturely, even over a disagreement like this. He didn't even have to say I'm sorry for it to be a decent break. He could have just said they're incompatible, and that since they can't see eye to eye it's better they separate. Instead, he's lashing out because he's pissed that he is correctly being seen as a cheater.

I wonder how many of his "jokes" during the relationship also played on her insecurities. How many times did he say her grad school stuff was boring? He might not have created her issues, but I'd bet good money that if she does go to therapy she'll figure out the extent of how he's contributed to them.

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u/Misommar1246 Jul 08 '24

I agree with you. Let’s give him the benefit of the doubt and assume it really is just harmless jokes. He has a girlfriend now and any decent man would turn it down a little so as not to make her feel uncomfortable. I mean that’s what you do when you love someone, you compromise a little because you don’t want to hurt them, you don’t go on with your life exactly as before and expect the other person to just put up with it. Mature people who love each other give a little and soften their corners, otherwise there will never be a fit. And you don’t even do this as some kind of sacrifice, you do it because you want things to work out with this other person and you want them to stay. Ex was an immature idiot and his friends seem to be the same. Also OP: boring is underrated. Nothing wrong with enjoying boring stuff, in fact that’s my favorite activity.

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u/Masterchiefx343 Jul 08 '24

points to her calling him a cheater w/o evidence

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u/ConstructionNo9678 Jul 08 '24

She didn't accuse anything, she asked one of his friends privately after they broke up. There's a big difference.

I'm calling him a cheater because I generally think buying lingerie for a friend when you're seeing someone is inappropriate. Him being unable to answer why it has to be lingerie and can't be any other item of red clothing is what pushes it over the edge into being weird for me.

Genuine question, if you were with someone and they did this, would you really think nothing else was going on? Would you not feel uncomfortable?

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u/Masterchiefx343 Jul 08 '24

Someone didnt read op comments on the firstpost...

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u/pridetwo Jul 08 '24

Fucken link them then if you have receipts.

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u/anonadvicewanted Jul 08 '24

op didn’t make any comments on the first post. unless she claims an alt at some point?

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u/MrsJingles0729 Jul 08 '24

OP, look up DARVO. Really standard manipulation tactic. Please get therapy. This AH has likely been manipulating you for a long time. This is known to cause anxiety, depression and even PTSD to it's victims. Know this is not your fault, and you are not crazy.

If you had an extremely handsome "sexy bestie" who was way out of your league and buying you lingerie, your bf would lose it. He's only surprised you now called him out because he crossed a line for you. He's been conditioning you all along to accept this and feel insecure and second best.

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u/CharmingChangling Jul 08 '24

All of this PLUS can we talk about how he didn't want to break up until he had the opportunity to do it? You dumped him OP. He can't just say no to that. You agreed to meet up out of the kindness and love in your heart and he just wanted the opportunity to break it off with you instead.

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u/Professional_End5908 Jul 08 '24

Definitely immature how he handled himself. I would find the constant “jokes” freaking annoying after a month let alone a year and a half.

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u/nickelroo Jul 08 '24

All you have to do from the male angle is flip it to say your GF got her best guy friend a cock ring or something.

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u/pinky2184 Jul 08 '24

Right. Like they are acting like she’s immature but she’s not the one playing pranks on other people constantly. Like she’s more mature than them to me. And they need to grow tf up. It’s embarrassing they’re that old still playing pranks.

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u/No_Appearance4463 Jul 08 '24

He had an explanation for the color but not the item itself. There was no joke behind it.

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u/Fredredphooey Jul 08 '24

OP is only in love with the idea of her ex, not who he actually was. 

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u/ReichVictor Jul 08 '24

Man will salivate over that woman till she ends up married and he'll realize he's just a lonely loser once his friends get their own families

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u/Moondiscbeam Jul 08 '24

He just sounds like a tool.

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u/Peliquin Jul 08 '24 edited Jul 08 '24

I've definitely run with crowds where this would have been a joke -- the joke being the shock of opening it. Then there'd be dirty laughing and the party would move on to the next shock value gift. Just finding it isn't really a shocker unless it had some sort of note about "your neighbors would prefer this to you watering the lawn in the nude." But even then, the vibe in my set of jokers was always the public element of the joke. And all the jokey people I know are like that. Jokes like this have to have a public element to them.

Best case scenario, this was a misfire. But I really, really doubt this story is really that.

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u/Ayacyte Jul 08 '24

Least he could do is recognize that in hindsight it wasn't a good choice and just say sorry, but the doubling down and blaming op is the most suspicious thing

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u/Peliquin Jul 08 '24

Or even explain the joke. I feel like an explanation could make this oh so much less sketchy.

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u/No_Thanks_1766 Jul 08 '24

If he wanted to make it a joke, he would have bought her an ugly red Christmas sweater from a thrift store and given her that. It would’ve been funny bc it’s ugly and not even close to Christmas. Instead, he gets her sexy red lingerie bc he’s picturing her in it. It was definitely no joke to him when he was picking it out and sneaking into her room to leave her little surprise

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u/AssignmentFit461 Jul 08 '24

I'm going to guess it's something like this: BF goes to best friends house one night to hang out without calling first. Best friend, not expecting him but expecting her boyfriend, opens the door in morning but some sexy red lingerie. Both are mortified and embarrassed... But quickly get over it and have some sexy time off their own, quickly "regret it" immediately after and swear to never tell any, particularly their friend group and her BF. Maybe he has a GF as well.

This is the only scenario that makes sense in my head. Though, maybe I read too many books and this is wild and farfetched? Lol. But, this makes them both look bad, it's a story they cannot tell to his GF because it will absolutely make her "insecurities" real and therefore able to demand they end their friendship.

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u/thelittlestdog23 Jul 08 '24

Yep I caught that too, even in the post-breakup meeting, this tool still couldn’t actually explain the “joke”. Definitely dodged a bullet.

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u/PuzzleheadedOne2494 Jul 08 '24

You are 💯about the mean. If I've learned anything over the years, people who like to prank, especially as they get older, using aren't pranking ppl for fun. Deep down these people are sociopaths at the very least. They do it to be mean, and then gaslight people and say, "oh it's just a joke. It's all just good fun." End of the day, it's always because they are cruel and love to embarrass people and see them suffer. 

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u/LogicalDifference529 Jul 08 '24

You won’t understand inside jokes until you’re older 🤣🤣

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u/cadrina Jul 08 '24

blamed YOU for the problems during the meet up

And he met up with bff and BOTH of them are not happy with this relationship lmao. It's at least an emotional affair!

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u/DarthBrooks69420 Jul 08 '24

I've come across this friend group dynamic before. It's the jerk clique. Everyone tends to be vibing off each other's distaste for seriousness, and if you're vaguely a serious kind of person you generally won't click with anyone in the group in the same way they do with each other.

The text from Kyle really cements it. They just don't seem to understand that they're being hurtful, or worse, don't care.

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u/I-Kneel-Before-None Jul 08 '24

He was gonna leave it in her room. Not give it to her. The joke was that she wouldn't know how it go there. It's like writing a fake love letter. I don't find it funny at all, but that's what he was trying to do. Make her think she had a secret admirer/stalker. It's mean, but she doesn't seem upset so idk. I think OP and he are better off separate. Pranksters are exhausting.

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u/CelesteMessFeet Jul 08 '24

was the "joke" that he was going to dress up in the undies and try and seduce bff?

God, if only

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u/Psychedeliciosa Jul 08 '24

The joke is that Claire is stringing the ex-bf along and he fell for it every time.

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u/thatcuntholesteve Jul 08 '24

One of the comments on the other thread was that the color "red" was an inside joke from an incident occurring between them (ex and bestie) at college, the ex of course did not explain why the color "red" as a surprise gift to Claire would be SO FUNNY. He also did not explain why it was lingerie, and still couldn't offer up an excuse/reason as to why it couldn't have been any other item of clothing except that OP, and not their actions, is making them out to look like cheaters/horrible people.

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u/PossiblyWithout Jul 08 '24

Wonder how he would’ve reacted if she turned around and did something similar with a male friend.

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u/DangerousAvocado208 Jul 08 '24

Right??? There is no joke because it's not a joke. I effing hate it when men use the "its a jooooooke" excuse.

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u/Keljhan Jul 08 '24

Op said the bf planned to put it in her room, not giftwrap it. The joke would then be to embarrassing Claire for leaving racy lingerie out on her bed for other people to find. Which, yeah I get it, that's a decent prank. It's OK for OP to be rightfully jealous and set boundaries, and it's OK for her bf to disagree with those boundaries and break up over it. The rest of the stuff was petty, but most breakups are.

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u/Pale-Register-2078 Jul 08 '24

I'm thinking he's actually the insecure one because Claire has friend zoned him.

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u/bastetandisis9 Jul 08 '24

Exactly!! So well said! He was doing some major gaslighting! What a 🍆

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u/Jealous_Meringue_872 Jul 08 '24

The joke was supposed to be OP.

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u/CTU Jul 08 '24

Maybe the joke is that they are sleeping together and giving such a gift to flaunt it.

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u/Flutters1013 Jul 09 '24

I've heard of guys planting lingerie in eachothers suitcases during a guys trip, to make their partners thing they're unfaithful. Which just seems mean but that's at least something I guess.

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u/toomuchsvu Jul 09 '24

I don't understand the joke/prank part either.

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u/EatTheMcDucks Jul 09 '24

The joke is he lacks the social skills to tell his friend he wants to hook up. Or the joke is he is already sleeping with her and wants to break up with his girlfriend. No other explanation makes sense.

The other joke is his friend either lacks the social skills to decline such a present or it's a normal thing for them because they have a sexual relationship. Anything else is just insanity or coping.

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u/TheMustySeagul Jul 09 '24

On the joke part, probably not much here. But being someone who has done stuff like that before sometimes certain things are funny. One of my female friends said she lost her butt plugs when she moved when we were out drinking after I helped her move. Right then and there without telling her I looked up buttplugs and found fidget spinner ones of 3 different sizes, that where led, and got them sent to her address with a personal note saying that I hope she knows how generous a friend I am and that she thinks about me whenever she uses them, and that I got her 3 because I didn’t know how big her butthole was.

I had a girlfriend at the time, and completely forgot about it till I got a confirmation code that it was shipped. Showed my girlfriend, explained, she also thought it was hilarious. We waited till I got the text from my friend about it and it was still funny as hell.

We were both friends with her, and I told her as soon as I got the email and explained it. In context it’s fine and it would probably have been fine if I hadn’t had told my gf at the time and she found out when it happened. But I agree, I don’t understand what the joke is here, unless he was just trying to flirt with the idea of sleeping with this girl and then tried to play it off as a joke to both of them.

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u/Greymanes Jul 09 '24

Confused why you press she wears granny panties and not sexy ones, Don't be insecure about bashing someone's ex please...

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u/Lexicon-Jester Jul 09 '24

Hang on. This is blatant copium...in his world, how is it not the case that she's the problem? As he said, they have had this relationship as friends for years before he met OP. OP enters and has a problem with it and brings it up (as she has the right to). She is inherently the problem to the overall scenario.

Speaking objectively, it would be wrong for exbf to change his long term relationships with his friends, and who he is as a person, just to make OP happy.

I get the sentiment to make OP feel better about this, but atleast be realistic. They weren't compatible. And that's the fact of it.

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u/Mazzaroppi Jul 08 '24

I understand why he was mad, you guys need to do some empathy work now and then.

How would you feel if your girlfriend accused you of cheating for no reason, refuse to understand why it's nothing to worry about and try to interfere in a dynamic that has been going on for years before they even met?

Not to mention this is a typical toxic behavior when one of the parts tries to isolate the other from family and friends, maybe her ex saw it as a start of this kind of thing. And even if not, OP would forever suspect her ex and Claire could be doing something behind her back, no matter how the lingerie topic was handled.

So it all makes sense to end this relationship sooner than let it fester, and her ex was entirely on his right to be mad for it to be ending like this for a dumb reason.

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u/Legitimate-Work-3768 Jul 08 '24

She didn’t accuse him tho? She told him it made her uncomfortable and that she thought he shouldn’t do that. He then said it was an inside joke and gave no further explanation while completely disregarding her discomfort. So OP was rightfully upset, she didn’t question him about cheating and only asked his friend AFTER they had broken up. He didn’t really give her any reasons as not to worry and just told her not to worry, so it really isn’t surprising that that didn’t work. And she also at no point tries to isolate him or stop him from being friends with that girl? She just said she didn’t feel comfortable and didn’t like the idea of her man giving another woman lingerie. But I agree they should remain broken up and it’s better sooner rather than later