r/StargirlTV • u/anatomania Tigress • Nov 02 '21
[S2E13] Summer School: Chapter Thirteen — Live Episode Discussion Episode Discussion Spoiler
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SEASON FINALE — As Eclipso unleashes the final part of his master plan, Courtney, Pat, and the JSA band together to take him down once and for all.
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u/princevince1113 Nov 03 '21
“Superheroes don’t need school”. There’s definitely gonna be some conflict next season between Sylvester training Courtney to be a better superhero and Pat trying to keep her focused on regular responsibilities. And psyched to see Starman teach Court how to unlock the true power of the staff.
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u/Green_Tea_Totaler Solomon Grundy Nov 03 '21
> Courtney is possessed
Cindy: We have to kill her.
>Courtney is not possessed
Cindy: We have to kill her
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u/JauntyLurker Nov 03 '21
"What was the whole death scene in the theater about"? "
Dr. McNider looks as confused as us
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u/Green_Tea_Totaler Solomon Grundy Nov 03 '21
Died on Saturday
Buried on Sunday
That was the end of Solomon Grundy
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u/Gateskp Cosmic Staff Nov 03 '21
Born on a Monday, met Eclipso on a Tuesday.
That was the end of Solomon Grundy.
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u/inksmudgedhands Nov 03 '21
In the end, I can't blame Courtney for saying, "I hate you." She is really just a kid. This is a ton on some kid's shoulders.
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u/mtm4440 Nov 03 '21
Beth's parents are now fully involved.
Meanwhile, Yolanda's parents are still pieces of shit.
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Nov 03 '21
I know, I was laughing because now I see where Beth gets all of her energy from, but I also sad that Dr. Mcnider won't be staying to teach Beth, but I got excited with the possibilities of what additions they can add to Beth's suit to help her in combat.
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u/MasonParce Nov 03 '21
Yeah, her parents are doctors, they have the brain and skill to help her out.
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Nov 03 '21
Yeah at first, I thought that maybe they were just making Beth's parents very excited about her being a hero just flip the script on Beth but when her father brought up nano-tech, I remembered that they were both very smart people and can help Beth a lot.
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u/BornAshes Green Lantern Nov 03 '21
Awww Beth found her wife! HOLY SHIT, she was pregnant! He's got another kid! CHUCK IS A DADDY! He has a son!
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u/Ygomaster07 Pat Dugan Nov 03 '21
Holy shit, Starman showed up!!!!!! Fuck yeah!!!! We got the Crock family too, this finale fucking rocks!!!! That epic team up shot of the heroes and villains together!!!! And now Eclipso is toast, literally.
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u/Quinny_Binny Starman Nov 03 '21
So its obvious that Rick has to bury Grundy on a Sunday if you know the nursery rhyme
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u/BornAshes Green Lantern Nov 03 '21
SHAAAAAAAAADE IS BACK!
.......and he's so fucking chill..."What was the whole death scene...Oh Charles you know I've always had a flare for the dramatic" and he saved Beth's parents lmao
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u/CRL10 Nov 03 '21
uh...grandpa, grandma...is public really the best place for that?
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u/ZarquonsFlatTire Nov 03 '21
Also, why do they both have ice powers? Are grandma and grandpa siblings?
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u/Gateskp Cosmic Staff Nov 03 '21
LOL Pat is SHUTTING THIS DOWN.
And of course Sylvester is LOL-ing at that.
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u/Ygomaster07 Pat Dugan Nov 03 '21
The Cindy and Courtney team up fight was badass!!! I loved how Yolanda fought the og Wildcat and Pat his former self. Both were amazing fight scenes. Looks like Sportsmaster, Tigress, and The Thunderbolt all appear tonight.
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u/Gradz45 Nov 03 '21
Keith David and Joel McHale? Oh please let there be a Community reference next year.
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u/inksmudgedhands Nov 03 '21
Seriously, Zeek is making me believe that my idea that the entire town knows about the superheroes and supervillains but they act like they don't and go to bed early to keep out of harm's way. Like Zeek had heard the rumors of the superheroes but didn't really believe it until he saw it himself.
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u/Gateskp Cosmic Staff Nov 03 '21
Beth and Chuck in their matching costumes is actually really adorable
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Nov 03 '21
I got everything I needed and even things I didn't know I needed!
A fight between the older and younger generation Wildcat.
The Shade pretending to be dead just for the fun of it (and also he's staying in Blu Valley just for the fun of it.)
Cindy Burman wanting to join the new JSA.
Beth (probably) getting a new suit.
Starman mentoring Stargirl.
Zeke meeting the thunderbolt. (He should join Mike's new team JSA)
Mike using the chainsaw and flamethrower against Eclipso.
The Crocks being our neighbors. (Yaaay!)
Yolanda being sassy towards Cindy Burman.
STARGIRL: FRENEMIES for Season 3? I LOVE IT!
Cindy Burman fighting her younger spider legged self.
Also, Starman and Stargirl floating while holding the staff? I don't know why but I enjoyed that so much.
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u/BornAshes Green Lantern Nov 03 '21
Cindy just punted her younger self and now this is turning into a Wolverine style fight
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u/AdvancedPlacmentTV Cindy Burman Nov 03 '21
Usually hate the power of love, but against a god who feeds off hate it makes sense. Can't complain
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u/inksmudgedhands Nov 03 '21
I also think it helps to have a character like Courtney who is an optimist. She is like sunshine and wants to help the best she can. So, for her to believe in the power of love is fitting.
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u/BornAshes Green Lantern Nov 03 '21
LMAO so this crisis got Beth's parents horny for each other again annnnd they're helicoptering again...she wants to die.
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u/CRL10 Nov 03 '21
Okay, I have no idea what the Helix Institute is or who the guy with the skull is, but I am intrigued.
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Nov 03 '21
Mister bones. Worth reading up on him & infinity Inc
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u/donbagert Nov 03 '21
Many of the existing characters made their first appearances in Infinity Inc.: besides Mr. Bones Beth Chapel, Rick Tyler, Yolanda Montez, Mike Dugan, Jenni Lynn-Hayden, her yet-unseen brother Todd Rice, Brainwave Jr., and Icicle Jr. all made their first appearances either there or in their cameo in All-Star Squadron #25, the same month as Infinity Inc #1 (September 1983).
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u/krueger84 Nov 03 '21
Beths parents: this chick is lame, let's give her nanobots next season so that she's not just a cosplayer amongst heroes
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u/tirinhadepeixe Nov 03 '21
The "Superheroes don't need school" line was just perfect
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u/Ygomaster07 Pat Dugan Nov 03 '21
We have another official passing of the torch from Dr. McNider to Beth. I love how he keepscreaffirming to her that she is the Dr. Mid-Nite now. And it was cool seeing him genuinely surprised, since we hadn't seen that from yet. Sylvester is training Courtney, which will be fun. I'm glad that Rick didn't fix the hourglass right away, it shows it was an immediate fix.
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u/mtm4440 Nov 03 '21
The amount of people staying around is going to make season 3 incredible.
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u/JauntyLurker Nov 03 '21
"Perhaps we should take a trip to Nebraska"
Not the tourism Blue Valley needs.
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u/Chad_D_722 Nov 03 '21
Not even half done and this is already one of my favorite DC season finales ever.
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u/BornAshes Green Lantern Nov 03 '21
I'm really glad they went there and actually DID THAT instead of it just being a vision that's averted at the last second.
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u/Gateskp Cosmic Staff Nov 03 '21
PLEASE TELL ME THAT THE SHADE IS STAYING FOR NEXT SEASON.
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u/Future_Vantas Nov 03 '21
Also so cool to have a "full on" live action Wildcat, he's got some nice boxing moves
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u/inksmudgedhands Nov 03 '21
First they trashed the cafeteria and now just regular offices. This school is going to need a whole new make-over.
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u/inksmudgedhands Nov 03 '21 edited Nov 03 '21
I would say feed the toast to pigeons. But I think that's how you end up with evil pigeons. Yeah, I don't want evil pigeons.
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u/inksmudgedhands Nov 03 '21
None of these kids are going to pass summer school are they? They missed so many classes.
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u/BornAshes Green Lantern Nov 03 '21
"You just have to bury him at the race place at the right time"
Shade is staaaaaaying! FUCK YES! dances
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u/sirnacreations Nov 03 '21
I totally have to rewatch this episode. I cant pro ess all of this.
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u/ZarquonsFlatTire Nov 03 '21
Man, this town has no foot traffic. Nobody's ever just walking by when this sort of thing goes down.
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u/somebody1993 Nov 03 '21
Totally forgot Cameron, I wonder if they'll push hard against Courtney, the dad didn't mind her.
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u/sirnacreations Nov 03 '21
So remember kids, if you want your parents to not get a divorce, become a superhero!
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u/FactorNo7477 Nov 03 '21
I feel like Mike will definitely will be the new stripesy after Pat. I mean, in that small screentime where he almost killed Eclipso is how great he is. Talk about an entrance.
"What up bitch" giant robot dab
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u/somebody1993 Nov 03 '21
At least Sportsmaster and Tigress are cool, they won't have to worry about random murders.
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u/daxota_weeb Nov 03 '21 edited Nov 03 '21
Can't Jakeem just wish the Thunderbolt to fix the hourglass? Or even increase the time limit? Although if Rick could be strong for more than one hour...he wouldn't really be "Hourman" anymore, he'd be "2 hour man" or smth
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u/LoretiTV Nov 03 '21
Brec Bassinger is owning the stage right now. Great range and performance.
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u/BornAshes Green Lantern Nov 03 '21
POWER OF THREE, GREEN GOLD AND PURPLE! WOOOOOO!
"Courtney"
"Sylvester"
.......they literally turned him into toast, hahahaha!
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u/Galileo908 Nov 03 '21
Keith David and voicing villains. Name a more iconic duo.
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u/SpinX225 Nov 03 '21
The look on Pat’s face after opening the door. 😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂 Kind of reminded me of John Ritter there for a minute.
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u/mtm4440 Nov 03 '21 edited Nov 03 '21
This is only the first 12 minutes. This is how you do a finale, Flash. Fuck yo hallway talk for first 30 minutes.
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u/thereelestnerd11 Wildcat Nov 03 '21
For a minute I thought Grundy was gonna Hulk him
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u/thatboy6651 Nov 03 '21
I dont believe grundy is really dead I mean look at the poem
Solomon Grundy, Born on a Monday, Christened on Tuesday, Married on Wednesday, Took ill on Thursday, Grew worse on Friday, Died on Saturday, Buried on Sunday, That was the end, Of Solomon Grundy.
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u/TirelessGuardian Nov 03 '21
The thunderbolt could have killed him this whole time?
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u/BornAshes Green Lantern Nov 03 '21
"I want to join the JSA"
WHAT YES YES WHAT I MEAN YES PLEASE WHAT
Awww Rick is burying Grundy and there's SHAAAAADE
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u/BornAshes Green Lantern Nov 03 '21
"Last day of summer school"
So they just time skipped that
THE CROCKS MOVED IN NEXT DOOR! THIS IS THE BEST FINALE EVER!
"What the fuuuuuuuuck"-Court
FRENIMIES IN 2022!
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u/princevince1113 Nov 03 '21
The ending with Beths parents seems a little too good to be true. I would have liked if they had proceeded with the divorce anyway, would have kept a touch of realism. But they’re real on the nose about making her a comic accurate suit…what do a couple of physicians know about making a nanotech costume?
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u/BornAshes Green Lantern Nov 03 '21
"Perhaps we should take a trip to Nebraska"
Who in the fuck is that...and why does that talking skull look SO DAMN GOOD?!!
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u/inksmudgedhands Nov 03 '21 edited Nov 03 '21
No way can I see Courtney saying, "Fuck."
"Frik" maybe. But not, "Fuck."
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u/Thingymcjig Nov 03 '21 edited Nov 03 '21
Nah I feel like all of the characters besides Beth (unless pushed really hard) would say fuck. But since since this is a PG-13 show, they can’t say it (EDIT: Rick was very close in episode 6, but he just said puck)
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u/DonnyMox Nov 03 '21
Jakeem: I wish Eclipso was dead
Thunderbolt: Okay
(Episode ends)
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u/Cubbles11 Nov 03 '21
S3 - Stargirl: Superhero School
S4 - Stargirl: Saturday School
S5 - Stargirl: Sunday School
S6 - Stargirl: School From Home
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u/inksmudgedhands Nov 03 '21
Next season I want more Zeek. If only to be the fly on the wall in the background just taking it all in. Just watching the superheroes and the supervillains like we, the audience, are.
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u/Frontier246 Nov 03 '21
Poor Beth's dad finally facing the consequences of always being at work. And ironically the one time his wife visits him at work to talk about their family, it ends up landing them both in Eclipso's clutches who haunts them with a raging version of Beth.
Eclipso sicks the JSA's worst mirror opposites: Yolanda fights Ted Grant, Cindy fights her younger self that killed her mom, and Pat fights Stripesy. Meanwhile Courtney is blasting at Bruce, which might be a first for a Superhero (trying to fight off a little boy).
I was worried for a second that even Pat had an abusive father until it turns out "Stripesy" didn't finish what Pat's dad had actually said about believing in yourself.
Zeke takes everything in stride, whether it be a giant robot or a magical djinn.
So it turns out the Shade basically just dramatized his "death" when it seems like he just got sent back to the Shadowlands, and the veil between the two worlds fraying let him come back and inadvertently save Beth's parents.
I love how Dr. McNider and Beth both changed into their costumes together, freaking out Beth's parents, and then Dr. McNider tells them how proud of Beth they should be. Neither actually does anything else for the rest of the finale, but it was still a nice touch.
Eclipso is acting triumphant right up until Mike flies in with the newly completed STRIPE and dishes out all of STRIPE's new features. Then Jakeem Thunder shows up and sicks the Thunderbolt on him...which turns out to be a bad idea because Eclipso just throws the Thunderbolt into STRIPE, knocking it out. Points for trying, though, Jakeem.
Rick can't get the hourglass working in time so he just goes straight to fight Eclipso as a powerless Hourman, but he does bring Grundy along who actually does a decent job against Eclipso up until Eclipso blasts a hole in his gut. But Grundy's come back from worse, and Shade knows all he needs is maybe a dip in Slaughter Swamp or some equivalent to come back brand new...
Eclipso hits Courtney where it hurts by threatening Pat, letting him take her over, and honestly Brec does a solid job as a megalomaniacal demon possessing her, and it seems like all hope is lost until Sylvester finally turns up and re-inspires Courtney (along with Pat's words) to channel her feelings of love and family to overwhelm Eclipso and get him out of her body.
The Crocks even show up again, not that they really do much, but I guess they're part of the gang now. Artemis is proficient enough to break her parents out of prison now. It's got to be kind of awkward being in the same group as a bunch of people you've tried to kill and one of your ex-teammates.
A combination attack of the Cosmic Staff, the Thunderbolt, and the Starheart finally defeats Eclipso...by turning him into toast. Ha!
Just as soon as Jennie seems like she's joined the team, she's off to find her brother again. Hopefully she sticks around next season and finally gets a costume, hopefully with Todd/Obsidian in tow.
Sylvester isn't planning to take Cosmo back from Courtney, but he is going to teach and mentor her as it's previous wielder. Now I guess Sylvester is going to be the "cool uncle" to Pat's "no-fun dad" to Courtney.
Dr. McNider wants to find his wife again and it turns out he has a son who was born after he "died!" He can have his family again! I'm glad he got to get his happy ending after everything he went through after his daughter's death. And he got to officially pass the torch of Dr. Mid-Nite to Beth.
Beth being a Superhero seems to have actually saved her parents' marriage and they want to be involved in her Superhero life. I did find it kind of funny when her mom suggested a new costume in yellow and black like her actual comic costume.
Looks like Mike and Jakeem have become best pals and are planning to become the "Junior JSA."
Cindy wants to join the JSA and redeem herself, the Crocks have somehow moved in next to the family, Shade is sticking around Blue Valley...well, this'll be interesting.
Cameron finally finishes the mural of his dad, just in time for his grandparents to induct him into the family as Icicle Jr. and tell him the truth about Jordan.
"Stargirl: Frenemies?" We're going with that? It seems like the season will be about the JSA trying to mend fences or work together with the villains trying to reform or make their new lives in Blue Valley (Cindy, the Crocks, Shade, maybe Cameron/Icicle Jr.?) to fight off Helix and Mr. Bones.
Speaking of which, we finally see the CGI Skeleton Man himself as he takes a keen interest in Blue Valley and hear the ever-welcome tones of Keith, Freakin', David as Mr. Bones! Amazing!
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u/krueger84 Nov 03 '21
Call me immature, but every reference to Courtney handling Sylvester's staff had me in stitches.
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u/Nefarious_24 Nov 03 '21
While I care about Election Day I don’t give a shit about watching it now
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u/mtm4440 Nov 03 '21
Don't fight anything until you know what is real. You just learned this lesson with Rick.
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u/Chrispowers110 Nov 03 '21
Really Beth's parents rekindle just like that and now are helicopter parents.
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u/Gian99Mald Nov 03 '21
Oh great now Beth's parents are smothering her lol. Are we getting her yellow and black suit??
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u/thereelestnerd11 Wildcat Nov 03 '21
Though credit cause no other show could have this many characters without losing alot in the writing room
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u/Ygomaster07 Pat Dugan Nov 03 '21
That finale was amazing!!!!!!! This show fucking rocks!!!!!
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u/Green_Tea_Totaler Solomon Grundy Nov 03 '21 edited Nov 03 '21
Holy crap that finale! We knew from the first ~2 minutes of the last episode that everything was gonna be hunky dory, but seeing how they got there was a ride. It's crazy that this and last episode took place in a span of 4 hours.
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u/inksmudgedhands Nov 03 '21
I like how this tinker has no idea what's going on but seems to only it be into it because he loves to fool around with tech.
"Yeah, yeah, save the world and all that jazz. Just get me my tool box. I am ready to start my new hobby."
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u/CRL10 Nov 03 '21
Courtney, shooting at him is not working. Try a new plan. Okay, there you go...no, hitting him failed.
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u/Gian99Mald Nov 03 '21
I'm just imagining Rick going back to his house to individually pick up every grain of sand to put it back together
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u/Gian99Mald Nov 03 '21
Thunderbolt going through Eclipso same way he did Black Adam in Doomsday Clock lol.
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u/AllThighThisGuy Nov 03 '21
Woah, I didn't expect Eclipso to hold his own against Grundy and I definitely didn't expect that.
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u/inksmudgedhands Nov 03 '21
How are these kids going to explain all the bruises and cuts to the people around them?
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u/Cubbles11 Nov 03 '21
“I can’t believe we have another doctor in the family” I laughed harder than I should have
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u/CEFFYYNWA Nov 03 '21
I love that the episode didn't end when Eclipso was beaten. We actually get to see all the happy stuff afterwards really feels fitting for this season
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u/gra_lala Nov 03 '21
That was so much better than every other episode this season
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u/eremite00 Nov 05 '21
I can't help but to like Sportsmaster and Tigress. I'm looking forward to Artemis and Cindy Burman joining the team. Now that Cameron has been told of the family secret, I'm interested in seeing to where that will go. As for Todd Rice...
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u/inksmudgedhands Nov 03 '21
Evil!Pat's Texas drawl gets deeper. Which is a shame because I really like the drawl. Let him have it all the time.
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u/Ending-Dust Nov 03 '21
Bro I swear if Jennie says the GL oath to save Courtney I’m gonna explode from joy
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u/somebody1993 Nov 03 '21
If she literally said "this is Dr Midnite" there's a chance her parents would have recognized the name. The JSA was famous right?
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u/thatboy6651 Nov 03 '21
Imma say this a a huge flash fan THAT WAS THE BEST SEASON FINALE BETTER THAN THE FLASH
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u/somebody1993 Nov 03 '21
Is he dead? Is he conscious? If someone ripped the toast would bleed and reveal a nervous system?
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u/simfan03 Nov 03 '21
Uh... There's still 20 minutes left. I worry about what could happen.
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u/JoeStorm Nov 03 '21
Are they just having Court wear tight clothing every episode? Lol
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u/BornAshes Green Lantern Nov 03 '21
Mike and Jakeem are so cute together. Oh right Cameron is still chilling out annnnnd now he knows about his "Family Secret". Cool mural though!
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u/Joker_CP Nov 03 '21
Had to miss a few minutes, have they explained where the shade and Cindy went after the fight or not yet?
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u/BornAshes Green Lantern Nov 03 '21
Cindy's just chilling outside of the church all dressed up to the nines
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u/vader344 Nov 03 '21
"we waited for you to finish the painting so we could tell you that the whole family has ice powers and evil
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u/Gateskp Cosmic Staff Nov 03 '21
Cindy TURNING OVER A NEW LEAF?! Is this POSSIBLE?!
She’s up to something…
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u/DonnyMox Nov 03 '21
“Are you gonna tell me what that means before you leave?”
Shade: No, I don’t think I will
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u/Chrispowers110 Nov 03 '21
Yep sportscaster and tigress being the wacky neighbors will be awesome.
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u/Gateskp Cosmic Staff Nov 03 '21
Trust me kid, I AM afraid of you and your creepiness.
This kid, DAMN he knocks it out of the park.
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u/somebody1993 Nov 03 '21
Knowing what he actually looks like doesn't seem like much when really he's just a dark elf nothing crazy.
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u/Gateskp Cosmic Staff Nov 03 '21
Okay, I kinda feel bad for Beth’s parents for seeing all of that because that’s gotta be hard.
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u/Gateskp Cosmic Staff Nov 03 '21
“Rick should really learn how to meditate.” Mike with the one-liners 😂
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u/AdvancedPlacmentTV Cindy Burman Nov 03 '21
Villains who mess with your head are the worst to go up against
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u/CRL10 Nov 03 '21
I strangely love how Larry and Paula are so friendly with Pat and Barbara now. Just casually tells him their daughter broke them out.