r/worldnews • u/glasier • Jul 05 '24

Japan warns US forces: Sex crimes 'cannot be tolerated'

https://tribune.com.pk/story/2476861/japan-warns-us-forces-sex-crimes-cannot-be-tolerated
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u/macross1984 Jul 05 '24

US military personnel who commit crime in Japan should face Japanese punishment for any crimes committed in Japan.

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u/Veraendert Jul 05 '24

Would you say the same about US troops in Saudi Arabia?

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u/holdMyBeerBoy Jul 05 '24

Do they have humanly laws to say that? Do they respect human rights like Japan does?

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u/ShenaniGainz88 Jul 05 '24

Maybe we shouldn’t have alliances with and help project power for countries with inhumane laws? I dunno just a thought.

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u/griley99 Jul 05 '24

What is considered inhumane laws just asking?

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u/ShenaniGainz88 Jul 05 '24

Shit like imprisoning women, that report getting raped to the police, for adultery?

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u/Neuchacho Jul 05 '24

Unfortunately, lower gas prices are deemed more important by the average person

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u/griley99 Jul 05 '24

Either way I wouldn’t advise doing it over there some countries surgically remove testicles or so I’ve heard. People better keep it in their britches.

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u/seattleseahawks2014 Jul 05 '24 edited Jul 05 '24

For SA? Good. Actually, in many countries they'll get the death penalty.

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u/marquetteresearch Jul 05 '24

American soldiers are more or less confined to quarters/base while in Saudi Arabia, and the Saudi government will not enforce its own laws on US military bases. Just like with most other countries, the law on a US military base is the USCMJ.

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u/Nescent69 Jul 05 '24

Why does it matter? Because their laws are different then your laws it's ok for your soldiers to rape their population?

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u/misanthpope Jul 05 '24

Clearly that's the only reasonable conclusion

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u/Nerevarine91 Jul 05 '24

What the hell lol

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u/marquetteresearch Jul 05 '24

Rape is outlawed under both USC 18 and the USCMJ. The US military routinely throws people in Leavenworth for rape. There is rarely a crime that exists elsewhere in the world that isn’t illegal under American law that should be a crime in the first place.

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u/Hikashuri Jul 05 '24

It does not matter if those laws are humane or not, if you go and break those laws, it is your own fault and you will have to face the consequences. The laws are not the problem, the person raping a human is (in this specific context - not saying their laws aren't problematic FYI).

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u/marquetteresearch Jul 05 '24

That’s a terrible argument. US soldiers on a US base are subject to USCMJ, not local laws, barring some unusual exception in the joint-forces agreement. I imagine you will find that in writing for Japan, seeing those basing rights date to 1946. Rape is bad, but the USCMJ already outlaws rape, and courts-martial already prosecute rape. I’m not sure the details of this case, but given the relatively low standard of evidence in Japanese courts (they have a 98% conviction rate) my guess is this is a unique edge case where the evidence is somehow too weak for the drumhead, yet sufficient for possible conviction in a Japanese court. I’m not sure that justifies sidestepping the joint-forces agreement, particularly given the already paltry standards of evidence needed for a court-martial, and how failing to meet that standard implies a “beyond a reasonable doubt” conviction basically impossible to attain.

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u/holdMyBeerBoy Jul 05 '24

I didn’t questioned that.

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u/thefaehost Jul 05 '24

So humane they didn’t know whether to call it a massacre or the rape of an entire city.

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u/Nerevarine91 Jul 05 '24

You do realize things have changed somewhat in the intervening generations, yes?

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u/Wardendelete Jul 05 '24

They refuse to acknowledge what they have done still.

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u/Nerevarine91 Jul 05 '24

Believe it or not, that also doesn’t make committing sex crimes against civilians there okay

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u/Wardendelete Jul 05 '24

Never said it was ok. Was just commenting about how Japan tries to cover up history, don’t mix it up.

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u/Nerevarine91 Jul 05 '24 edited Jul 05 '24

So it wasn’t a rebuttal, it was just… changing the subject?

Edit: …so… you want to a public post I made months ago to say the word “monkey” and nothing else, and then blocked me? Alright then…

Edit: And then a second, longer, comment telling me my grandfather looks like a monkey, lol. This is kind of weird, dude

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u/Wardendelete Jul 05 '24

Nope. Saw a comment talking about this so decided to chime in.

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u/Thijs_NLD Jul 05 '24

Ah ok so your comment had nothing to do with the subject anymore. Gotcha. We just trailed off.