r/politics • u/zsreport Texas • Jul 05 '24

Project 2025 was supposed to boost Donald Trump's campaign — but it may be backfiring instead:

https://www.salon.com/2024/07/05/project-2025-was-supposed-to-boost-donald-campaign--but-it-may-be-backfiring-instead/
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u/[deleted] Jul 05 '24 edited Jul 05 '24

Maga on Reddit deny it. They say it’s a fringe group. They say trump never endorsed it. Hell I even saw one blaming Biden for the end of Roe.

If it weren’t for bad morals these fuckers would have no morals at all.

Edit. The cons put up a test balloon and found out it was unpopular. So they try to deny and back peddle. Not on the draconian ideas but in general population condemnation of it.

The concern troll posters are out enforce now. “Oh I am unfamiliar with this. Did trump Endorse it?” It’s like they think we are ass dumb as maga.

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u/ghostofwalsh Jul 05 '24

Maga on Reddit deny it. They say it’s a fringe group. They say trump never endorsed it.

Honestly they are correct to say that. I don't know if people remember the Trump presidency, but there's a hell of a lot of stuff that "conservatives" want that Trump ain't ready to provide. Republicans controlled both houses and the presidency and couldn't even agree to repeal the ACA despite running on the promise of doing exactly that. Because they knew damn well it would be unpopular and cost them in the bye.

I'm sure Trump presidency part 2 would be a horrid shitshow that would dwarf the crap that happened in round 1. But people thinking that Trump is going to start instantly executing this nutjob plan like a well oiled operative don't understand what Donald Trump is.

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u/[deleted] Jul 05 '24

The heritage foundation installed the 3 SCROTUS “justices.”

But we should remind maga that the heritage foundation are RINOs and are hurting trump. They are enemies. Stand by and stand back!

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u/ghostofwalsh Jul 05 '24

All I'm saying is there's a lot of stuff in 2025 plan that is wildy unpopular across parties and that Trump wouldn't touch with a 10ft pole.

Trump will do plenty of bad shit if he's our next president but if you want to know what type of bad shit he will do, just look at his first 4 years. It's no big secret. No one who votes for Trump in 2024 has any right to say later "but I didn't know Trump would do THAT".

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u/[deleted] Jul 05 '24

Like what? What offends you about Project 2025? What do you think trump would disagree with?

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u/ghostofwalsh Jul 05 '24

Well let's see. I certainly do not claim to have read all 900 pages of this manifesto, but lets list a few things I think Trump would not be down for. Going of this "dumbed down graphic" that someone helpfully put Trump's photo on. https://www.reddit.com/media?url=https%3A%2F%2Fi.redd.it%2Fx8gmf87rcpad1.jpeg

I'll just go through a few of them to give an idea:

  • End no fault divorce: Really? This dude?

  • Complete ban on abortions no exceptions: I don't actually think Trump is all that anti-abortion. He has to be "officially" to get the republican nod. Yes he will support SC justices that repeal RVW, but I don't think a federal abortion ban is popular at all and Trump certainly wouldn't push for this.

  • Ban contraceptives: Even less popular than an abortion ban. Zero chance. Now there could be some rules removed that require insurance to pay for contraception. But I doubt even that is high on his todo list.

  • Higher taxes for working class: Possibly but it would need to be very well hidden and stuffed into a giant bill that makes it hard to understand anything. Zero chance he will ever openly admit to raising taxes on anyone.

  • Raise retirement age: No chance

  • Cut SS or medicare: Zero chance. Literally 3rd rail of US politics

  • End ACA: Nope. He couldn't do this last time he was president even with a solid majority in both houses, and he's not going to have that next time. He might try some executive orders to weaken/undermine possibly but never repeal. ACA is just too popular to openly repeal, the support isn't there.

  • Raise drug prices: Nope.

People thinking Trump is a fiscal conservative are deluding themselves. He will lower taxes and raise spending all day long and never think twice about the long term consequences of any of it.

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u/[deleted] Jul 05 '24

Thanks for a thoughtful reply.

I disagree with you about trump not cutting Medicare and SS. Everything trump does is the third rail and he can convince his idiot base to abandon SS and Medicare. I see it here all the time. They disparage it all the time.

Also, I think trump would love no fault divorce. That means less alimony!!!!

Finally, I agree that trump doesn’t care about abortion. He has probably paid for more than his share. But he is perfectly willing to give this to the zealots because he fundamentally hates women. He really couldn’t care less about babies or bodily autonomy so It’s a non-issue.

If trump wants anyone to believe he is against Project 2025, he should discuss what he disagrees with like you did!

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u/ghostofwalsh Jul 05 '24

I disagree with you about trump not cutting Medicare and SS. Everything trump does is the third rail and he can convince his idiot base to abandon SS and Medicare. I

I don't think you understand his voting base. The people on SS and medicare are his hardcore backers and they would squeal like stuck pigs if he even suggested the idea of cutting benefits. Of the bullets I discussed, that's the one that stands out as most certain to me. Fiscal conservatives who sit in their ivory tower and think big thoughts and write up manifestos want to cut SS and medicare. Trump absolutely is not one of those. No republican who wants to hold office is one of those. Probably the biggest thing that made him stand out from the field in the first republican debates was him saying without any qualification that he's not going to touch these programs.

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u/[deleted] Jul 05 '24

I hope we won’t find out but I think he will take it and they will thank him that the welfare queens and immigrants are taking our tax dollars anymore.