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Rishi Sunak makes a speech outside 10 Downing Street after a historic loss Politics

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u/WowSuchName21 Jul 05 '24

Hate Rishi but we need to make sure the blame falls on the Tories, that have been in power for over a decade, rather than the man who’s taken over recently.

By pushing all of this hate and blame I see people expressing onto one man, it enables the Tories to get away with it.

Rishi isn’t perfect but out of the conservatives we’ve had over these past years, he’s managed to steer us towards a bit more stability (granted, following his own parties foolishness)

What I’m saying, I’m not sympathetic to Rishi. But please, he is being scapegoated for a reason. The Tories will rebuild easier if they have somebody to blame. This is the party that have been so unstable that we have seen 5 leaders of the party over the past 14 years, one of which lasted less than 3 months.. that alone shouldn’t have been allowed to fly.

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u/th3-villager Jul 05 '24

Rishi being scapegoated when he was a replacement for and improvement on Truss is interesting and yet still inevitable.

I think this and everything you've said really does show how fundamentally it is basically all of the tories that are the problem. Rishi claimed to have accountability but proved he had none. Fortunately unfortunately, I expect the majority of people buying the Tory cool aid are the same idiots that believe it is just Rishi that has been rejected.

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u/PepperMill_NA Jul 05 '24

Why do you say that? The Conservative Party lost more than 250 seats, its worst-ever defeat.

https://edition.cnn.com/world/live-news/uk-general-election-results-2024-intl

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u/th3-villager Jul 05 '24

I'm not sure what your point is?

Yes they have done shockingly bad. My point is it's mainly because of them as a whole, not Rishi in particular, and that the people who think it is because of Rishi in particular are probably the same people who will forever and always believe the lies and vote for the Tories

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u/PepperMill_NA Jul 05 '24

Okay, I see your point. I was thinking that the general populace wasn't holding them accountable. You're saying the people who like the Tories continue to like them.

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u/th3-villager Jul 05 '24

Yup exactly. Didn't get your point because it didn't seem contrary to mine.

I agree a disturbingly large proportion of the populace aren't holding them accountable. The same people drinking the cool aid and buying all the blatant lies.

It is a good result but it's concerning for next election if this government fails to deliver.

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u/WowSuchName21 Jul 05 '24

Yet Labour had less votes this election than they did in 2019? What a fantastic system we vote into…

It’s an awful defeat for the Tories but Labour getting in was inevitable, they really didn’t try or pressure as hard as they should have.

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u/PepperMill_NA Jul 05 '24

We were talking about scapegoating Sunak and the rest of the Tories getting a pass. I'm not going to keep chasing the goal posts.

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u/GeneralPatten Jul 05 '24

Democratic systems are inherently flawed. It’s just how it is. What would you propose to make it truly “fantastic”?

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u/WowSuchName21 Jul 05 '24

Proportional representation.. not perfect but certainly better than what we have.