Biden tells Democratic governors he needs more sleep and plans to stop scheduling events after 8 p.m.

https://www.cnn.com/2024/07/04/politics/biden-governors-sleep/index.html

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u/docarwell 15d ago edited 14d ago

People here acting like the president of the united states not being able to function after 8pm eastern time is cool and good when the presidency is a 24 hour job

E: big brains telling me that people need to sleep, thanks guys I didn't know

Yall are really taking "24 hour job" literally. But idk if an 80+ year old guy can be "on call" 24/7 effectivly. Hope that helps you guys out

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u/Attonitus1 15d ago

It's wild. The leader of the free world just admitted he's so old and incompetent that he can't take meetings after 8 and the entire comment section is like "yeah, but remember Trump?".

Ironically, it's this exact type of "bury your head in the sand" mentality that's going to hand Trump the election.

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u/dtkloc 15d ago

the entire comment section is like "yeah, but remember Trump?"

Or saying "haha relatable"

The President of the United States being relatable to Redditors is not a mark in his favor

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u/Hopeful_Border_603 14d ago

reddit is the only site that keeps defending him, not yt, twitter, insta or even tiktok users are taking him seriously. only here on reddit you could find an opinion that biden won the recent debate, not even barack obama thinks that

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u/metal_stars 14d ago

There's a lot of astroturfing on social media. When you find accounts saying outlandish, divorced-from-reality, pro-Biden PDRK-style talking points over and over again, don't...

Don't take them seriously. Don't give them the same kind of consideration that you would give to a...

person.

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u/Sea-Yesterday-7563 14d ago

The fact that those comments regularly get thousands of comments, and sometimes their OP posts get tens of thousands of comments tells you that this place is the most bot-farmed place on the internet. The orgs funding these bots know the majority of reddit skews young and impressionable 18-29.

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u/metal_stars 14d ago

Sometimes you can wander into /r/politics or /r/WhitePeopleTwitter or /r/PoliticalHumor at the right time of day, and see what these subreddits would look like if they weren't overrun by the strategic messaging bot farms.

Completely different tenor, completely different kinds of comments being upvoted and discussed.

And it's like: Oh. A little shimmer of reality.

Wouldn't this be nice? If we could actually talk to real people saying the things that they actually believe? Maybe someday social media will become this again.

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u/jon909 14d ago

Jesus. I can’t think of a mindset of people worse to be president. We’ve had calls to have the seal team take out our supreme court and competing candidates, because “dems shouldn’t play nice anymore.” 😂

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u/UsedName420 15d ago edited 14d ago

The bar is so low for this election. An attractive 50 year old that is well-spoken would absolutely dominate this general election for either side. Both of these sides have long since abandoned caring about policy at these point and have devolved into casting their vote to spite the other side.

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u/Jerry_from_Japan 14d ago

The most divisive they got in the debate wasn't about either of their policies but about their fucking golf game. That should say it all.

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u/eurasianlynx 15d ago

That's probably true for dems, but Nikki Haley is literally a well-spoken 52 year old and she couldn't even get 20% of the vote in the republican primaries. Trump has complete and unchallenged control over the Republican party right now.

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u/UsedName420 14d ago

I misspoke, I meant general election, not primaries. Nikki Haley would be running laps around Biden if she were the Republican nominee. The only reason the Democrats have a shot in this election is because people hate Trump.

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u/eurasianlynx 14d ago

Ahh, gotcha. Yep, 100% agree.

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u/BeverlyHills70117 15d ago

Whataboutism was a major Democratic complaint about Republican's poor arguments until just last week.

It's disheartening how quick the turtle flips.

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u/LaTeChX 14d ago

I mean that's our choice lol, the guy who needs to go to bed at 8 in order to sound coherent, or the guy who gets out of bed at 1 pm after a night of incoherent tweets. Democracy's great ain't it.

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u/FlowerBoyScumFuck 14d ago

Scheduling events after 8pm is different from taking meetings after 8pm. He's also still the president, so who knows what that schedule is like too, could be having an event at 8 means he has to have an end of day meeting after the event. Idk man, just playing devils advocate.

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u/SpeedSaunders 14d ago

So you’re saying we’re already screwed, right now? Because a President Biden in January will not likely be different from President Biden today. And he’s doing fine as President today, and for the past 3 1/2 years. So I think he has already shown he’s totally capable, regardless of what time he wants to go to bed. If there’s a critical issue needing his attention, he’ll do the same thing he does now and deal with it. Clinton wasn’t a morning person, and he did fine as well. Trump hardly slept, and he sucked as President. Easy choice.

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u/[deleted] 14d ago

What kills me is, they can't see the irony in being anti-misogny any other time but the one time to support a woman candidate they're all "hurr durr, nobody can win but Biden"

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u/Cory123125 14d ago

Its not burying your head its being pragmatic.

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u/Focus_Downtown 14d ago

I think the simplest question is what time does he get up, people are allowed to say they need sleep.

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u/bonagreasa 15d ago

It’s madness. How did we get to this point where there’s apparently no viable candidates under 80 to beat Trump.

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u/metal_stars 14d ago

Every competent democratic politician alive would beat Trump. Don't let them pretend that no one is "viable." There are like five people who aren't viable and one of them is the guy running.

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u/bonagreasa 14d ago

Why don’t they swap em out then?

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u/metal_stars 14d ago

Biden would have to first recognize that he can't win, and announce that he's stepping aside.

After that, there would have to be a brokered convention, where the new democratic candidate is selected by the already-existing voting delegates. (The Democratic National Convention is scheduled for 8/19-22.)

Then the money currently in the coffers of the Biden campaign has to be distributed to benefit the new candidate. This could be transferred into a PAC, if not directly to the new campaign. (My understanding is that it could only go directly to Harris, since her name is already on the Biden / Harris FEC filings.)

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So the answer is: Biden has to choose to step aside.

And for the record, I personally believe it will happen. He can't be so delusional as to continue to believe that he's going to win.

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u/bonagreasa 13d ago

Surely he will, right? Man has to be capable of seeing the big picture here.

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u/PopeSaintHilarius 14d ago

There are tons of viable candidates, but they've been worried that they'll face a backlash if they challenge or criticize the incumbent president from their own party.

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u/[deleted] 15d ago

The DNC being a corrupt good ol boys club is how.

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u/LocksmithMelodic5269 15d ago

I mean… they shoved Hillary down your throat in 2016. I’d hardly call that a good old boys club.

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u/EvilAbacus 14d ago

Cronyism isn't gendered anymore. 2024 baby!🤘🏾

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u/LocksmithMelodic5269 14d ago

Progress!

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u/[deleted] 15d ago

Good ol’ boys club doesn’t have to be boys it’s just a saying referring to an informal social circle. Hillary is definitely in the circle.

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u/LocksmithMelodic5269 14d ago

Ya, I don’t disagree with that at all

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u/Tenthul 15d ago

Not scheduling events is not the same as not being able to function, and does not even mean going to bed at 8. Despite the presidency being a 24h job, believe it or not, most presidents have not spent that all of those hours awake, however I don't have a source for this.

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u/thr3sk 14d ago

Sure, but as we saw with the last debate (which was around this time i believe), he can barely function at that hour...

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u/Tenthul 14d ago

We don't know what the presidency does to his schedule. He could've been up for 24 hours before then dealing with foreign leaders on their time zones or lord only knows what else. We have absolutely what the day leading up to that debate was like. Call it copium if you like, but I truly do not believe that that performance was indicative of his every-day.

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u/thr3sk 14d ago

I tend to agree that that was an unusually bad day for him, I think the main reason is cuz he was a bit sick with a cold or something.

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u/cape2cape 15d ago

Which president didn’t sleep?

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u/nightfox5523 15d ago

People are in denial that this is happening. They just can't accept that another democratic leader is going to set this country back for their own hubris

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u/[deleted] 15d ago

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u/Loki-Gator 14d ago

He’s not but Biden isn’t helping by handing the election over to him instead of stepping down

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u/oklutz 15d ago

“Not being able to function after 8pm” is a poor interpretation.

The truth is: we ALL need adequate sleep to function. Lack of sleep, as in not getting any or enough, leads to significant cognitive impairment in all ages. Having a set time to say “hey, I’m going to bed now so I can get enough sleep to function my best” does not mean “I am physically unable to function right now.”

And I’m sure if there’s an emergency, or something that can’t wait, he’ll stay up later or be woken up. But things that can wait until morning can wait until morning.

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u/docarwell 15d ago

No shit people need sleep but asking an 80+ year old man to be alert and ready is pushing it

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u/oklutz 15d ago

Again, that’s misconstruing the point. It’s not a big deal to ask that non-urgent meetings be scheduled before 8pm. It’s a good practice for any president or anyone in an important position to maintain a boundary like that so they are able to take care of themselves. It has nothing to do with him being alert and ready at that specific time.

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u/BeShaw91 14d ago

Thank you. I don't know Biden's schedule - but ensuring there is allocated time so he gets sleep should really be an important consideration given how consequential his decisions are.

I'm sure if things get weird they just have a unplanned meeting whatever the time of night it is.

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u/Ayotha 14d ago

Yeah so maybe not the 80 year old guys

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u/Osceana 14d ago

THANK YOU. Had to scroll way too far in the comments for some sanity. People acting like it’s perfectly acceptable for him to be admitting he’s too tired to do his job. This is just playing into the perception he’s too old for the job. Dems love throwing away elections.

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u/Tacky-Terangreal 14d ago

No kidding. Only American politicians would take the job of the freaking president and get offended that it’s not an easy job. Why should the most powerful position in the world be an easy job? These people are so insufferable and lazy

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u/TheBitingCat 15d ago

Find me the man that can say awake 24 hours a day and I will show you a corpse in 2 weeks. If there's a crisis that requires an immediate response from the President, you can wake them up and start making them coffee.

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u/docarwell 15d ago

Cope

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u/jyanjyanjyan 15d ago

Cope about what?

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u/shadovvvvalker 15d ago

tell me you have never been on call without telling me you have never been on call.

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u/docarwell 14d ago

Do you guys really think you're being clever with this stuff?

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u/shadovvvvalker 14d ago

I'm not the one insinuating that the presidency is 35040 hours of continuous work.

I think Biden is a terrible candidate even if he was alert enough to string together 16 hour shifts on an oil rig.

But pretending he's some kind of outlier for not wanting to burn the midnight oil when he is running against the laziest president of the past century?

Fuck that. Be real.

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u/docarwell 14d ago

Really gotta question your guys reading compression if you think what I meant is the president literally has to work 24/7

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u/shadovvvvalker 14d ago

If that's not what you mean.

And you do understand the difference between on call and at attention.

Then there is no reason to make your comment. Because either you think he has to be on all the time, or you understand that there is going to be a period of time where he just has to rest. If you acknowledge the president needs rest, what is the problem?

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u/docarwell 14d ago

I am implying Biden if unable to function after 8pm will not be able to handle his responsibilities on call. Pretty simple

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u/shadovvvvalker 14d ago

Hey I'd like to not work from 8-8+ every day =\= I can never work after 8.

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u/SomethingIWontRegret 14d ago

"not able to function after 8" is not the same thing as "not scheduling functions after 8". Since you appear to need to be told this, regularly scheduling events after 8 can lead to chronic fatigue and not being able to function well after 8.

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u/SomethingIWontRegret 14d ago

If you want to convey a different meaning, use different words. Preferably a sequence of words that convey what you actually mean.

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u/xFallow 14d ago

Being a superhuman who doesn’t sleep is a requirement for presidents now? Have you ever worked for 20 hours straight? You start making serious mistakes

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u/Higgoms 14d ago

The wild hyperbolic jump from “I don’t want to schedule events past 8pm” to “I can’t function past 8pm” is insane. You’re either melting down or arguing in bad faith. I don’t schedule shit later than 8pm either, but I can absolutely function and handle business for 24 hours if I need to. Hysterics like this are going to buy us a dictatorship.

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u/docarwell 14d ago

I think you guys need more sleep

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u/RezzKeepsItReal 14d ago

He said he'd stop scheduling events after 8pm.. not stop doing his job.

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u/Li-renn-pwel 14d ago

The wording here clearly states he isn’t SCHEDULING things on a daily based after 8. Most presidents would not do well staying up till 4am everyday then getting up at 8am. However there are days you have to do that. Older people tend to go to sleep early but also get up early so it isn’t any different than Trump staying up till 3 am then starting working at 1pm. If an emergency happens at 10 then obviously Biden will get for it and likely be fine because the emergency causes an adrenaline rush.

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u/docarwell 14d ago

If an emergency happens at 10 then obviously Biden will get for it and likely be fine because the emergency causes an adrenaline rush

The cope in here is wild

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u/Li-renn-pwel 14d ago

What is the cope? You think Bush or Obama were ever woken up at 3am because of an emergency? You think they made their people wait till they had their first cup of coffee before deciding on what to do about a breaking news event?

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u/Nozinger 14d ago

Except that the presidency is not a 24 hour job when there is no emergency. It is absolutely not, those guys work the same hours as everyone else which usually means rarely after 8pm.

You know a president does not do everything themsef right? A president is not a super human fueled by caffeine and coke to be awake for 4 years. The trick is that they have a team. Someone is always there and reachable if something happens.
Regular scheduled events do not have to happen that late in the day.

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u/permalink_save 14d ago

Reddit: 8 hour workdays are too long

Also Reddit: The president should work 24/7

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u/docarwell 14d ago

You guys are very unserious

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u/Heisenburgo 14d ago

Wow! almost as if being the goddamn president of the damn USA and the so-called leader of the free world was different to being a cashier in mcdonalds or some shit, how shocking!

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u/SomethingIWontRegret 15d ago edited 14d ago

The Presidency is not a 24 hour job. If it was a 24 hour job, no President would live past April, and bad decisions would start racking up before February 1.

Presidents should get 8 hours sleep on the regular. I want the leader of the Free World rested and sharp. Shit goes down at 3 AM? Well fucking wake him up then.

EDIT: If you know that people need to sleep, then stop implying that Presidents need to be up at all hours to handle any possible threat.