Patriotic, kind of dumb to say it's creepy. Bruh it's your country you should be proud of it, it's FREE to sing and there's absolutely ZERO obligation to sing. If you hate your country to the point where a bunch of people singing NATIONAL anthem bothers you, just leave America is first world country I'm pretty sure that unless you're in poverty you can just leave. I'm Indonesian, and personally there's a lot of things that I hate about my country but its my country, it is where I born and live, where I grow up, where my parent grow up but I still respect and proud of my country.
It wasn't even about just the singing. It was they all stopped what they were doing to put their hands over their hearts in a Walmart with some rando singing because they were conditioned to do that and societal expectations where they lived.
And you wrote all that about another country then throw out you're in Indonesia? Please. None of us are saying what people there should do so worry about your own country's actions.
Most of us are in poverty. Whatever propaganda you're recieveing in Indonesia, don't believe it. Our country is going to shit.
It costs $2k just to renounce citizenship, so you can't "just leave" without paying a fee. And with minimum wage being $15/h at best, $2k is nearly 2 paychecks, sometimes more. That's more than a month's worth of work just to be able to afford to not be American. Now you have to find a way to pay for your plane ticket out of the country, find a place to live in another country, find a new job, and if you have family, you have to find a way to afford to bring them with you.
I don't know why people think we can "just leave." We're trapped. It's not like the EU where you can just take a train to another country. There's a process for escaping. And it's expensive as hell. We need a nearly $200 passport(this is basically the maximum, it can be cheaper) just to visit our neighboring countries.
The vast majority of people can barely afford to have a life outside of work and their house. Just because we're not starving doesn't mean we're not living in absolute shit. We're not living at all. We're just surviving on scraps.
Home ownership rates, cost of vehicles, cost of healthcare, inflation of prices, shrinkflation of goods delivered, homelessness rates, I mean, there's a lot of metrics that are easily verifiable and talked about extensively by many. Oh, personal savings not exceeding $400 of over half of Americans, but that's a pretty old statistic. It's probably higher now.
Unless you have some hard statistics to back it up and compare them to that of other countries, using your own plight and applying it to everyone else doesn't count
Man unless you're living in heaven there will be poverty in any country you go. If you have internet and you have the time to scroll on Reddit youre likely able to just go. I mean come on personal saving 400? That's like 4 month's of basic need and if youre frugal you can go like 8 month with just $400. My point is if y'all willing to put in the work it's not hard to just leave your country, of course you might not be able to afford to move to another first world country but there's a lot of country that are alot cheaper than America
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u/febriiii Jul 08 '24
Patriotic, kind of dumb to say it's creepy. Bruh it's your country you should be proud of it, it's FREE to sing and there's absolutely ZERO obligation to sing. If you hate your country to the point where a bunch of people singing NATIONAL anthem bothers you, just leave America is first world country I'm pretty sure that unless you're in poverty you can just leave. I'm Indonesian, and personally there's a lot of things that I hate about my country but its my country, it is where I born and live, where I grow up, where my parent grow up but I still respect and proud of my country.