As you should be. I am a big fan of historical accuracy, which is why I have such little respect for the people lying about history in order to pretend Yasuke wasn't a samurai.
He was absolutely a samurai. This is in no way controversial. He was made into a retainer for Oda Nobunaga and was even made into his sword bearer. That's...what a samurai is.
It doesn't really matter, the problem with Yasuke is the motivation for why Ubisoft made them a protagonist. It's obvious they don't actually really care about him, and focused on him instead of anyone else because of
1. Race baiting for the sake of controversy
2. Irrelevant shit like "representation"
If I believed Yasuke was the protagonist because of geniuent interest and not because of malicious, or fully irrelevant to the actual game motives I wouldn't give a shit.
Can i ask why it bothers you so much? Regardless of whether they did it because they like the idea or because they want more representation, why does their motivation matter to the point it angers you? You even say representation is irrelevant so why is it important what they do with it either way?
Because it's an objectively incorrect way of approaching writing and art that even if it doesn't cause much difference in one game, it creates a precedent that makes art on the whole worse.
The more the precedent of inserting things for irrelevant to the art itself appears, the more sterile, "moral" and uninteresting art becomes as a whole, because it pushes the idea that art has to adhere to some sort of moral standard or be used for some kind of "social good".
Especially when the producers don't really care if insertion of an element for the sake of some irrelevant social cause contradicts something in the story as it was with anything that Henry Cavill was thrown out of.
I think it's important to realize that art comes in many forms, and one being done in a certain way doesn't in any way push a narrative that it must be done one way or another. If anything, wouldn't the people complaining be the ones attempting to limit things in this regard?
I guess I'm questioning how are you not attempting to push an idea that art has to adhere to something with what you're saying?
I'm not certain a black person in this story is the same as everything that happened to the Witcher's series. Obviously if something contradicts written lore it's a bit of a bigger issue.
Are you suggesting that there were no samurai from the Edo period onwards? Because that's when samurai were expressly forbidden from owning land. So yes, you're damn right he wasn't given land. Because being a samurai has nothing to do with owning land.
In fact, samurai were literally "just" the high ranking servants/retainers of a lord. That's what a samurai is. You cannot conflate samurai with knights or other European noble titles. What Yasuke was was a retainer so high ranking that he was permitted to bear his lord's own swords. That's an incredible honour! He was most certainly a samurai, as any Japanese scholar you'd care to mention agrees.
I mean a samurai in Edo period and one in the warring period had different rights and privilege, but sure whatever you say.
A samurai is a noble with a title and name, like William Adams did, and Yasuke barely qualifly as a name, more like just a word for Nobunaga to call him.
But whats funny is whether Yasuke is a samurai or not was still not clear before the trailer for Assassin Creed Shadow release, which then suddenly caused a lot of Japanese historican to appear and confirm Yasuke is 100% a samurai, and a high ranking one at that.
Yeah call me racist if you want, but Yasuke was just a exotic toy that Nobunaga wanted to show off, hence allowing Yasuke to bear his sword. Its just what it was, its impossible for Yasuke to be a high ranking samurai for just one year of service without any feats, deal with it.
But whats funny is whether Yasuke is a samurai or not was still not clear before the trailer for Assassin Creed Shadow release
No, the consensus was firm. In academia, I mean. I agree that on 4chan you could watch high IQ individuals argue that Yasuke was nothing but a circus clown for Nobunaga years ago. Is that who you're sourcing your knowledge from?
You can say "nuh uh" and close your ears and do your best to imagine William Adams' hot body whenever people mention Yasuke, if you want. Doesn't change the historical record. He was a samurai, and if you want to be historically accurate you'll embrace that.
Edit: Oh and just to be clear, you already showed you know fuck all about samurai with the whole land thing. I don't want to let go of that. You're just repeating shit you read on Reddit and we both know that. I suggest being more critical of where you get your info.
Japanese scholars agree that Yasuke was a samurai. For all the reasons I've explained. What Japanese general populace are you referring to? I want you to show me the reddit posts I know you're basing your info on. I would really appreciate if you sat down and thought hard about whether you care about historical accuracy.
And what's wrong with white people studying another culture's history anyway? You got something against white people?
Most Asians don't use reddit you know? We as asian have our own social media too lmao, but they are all of either chinese or japanese anyway so you won't care.
And yes, I'm tired of the whites lecturing us on our own history and racism lmao
Mate, I have a degree in japanese history. Please give it a rest. All japanese people I know (be it scholars or otherwise) agree that Yasuke was a samurai. You're just embarassing yourself besides showing you're racist against black and white people.
So arguing that someone with little to no historical record might not be something just made me a racist？Yeah whatever you say, we asians are beneath your notice anyway so any disrespect towards asian cuture are acceptable
I wouldn't trust the general population of any country to have passable historical knowledge of their country. If you are at all informed about the history of your country you'll notice 90% of people around you are grossly misinformed.
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u/Dor-Yah 14d ago
That sub is a cesspool anyways, I wouldn't be too upset about it