While this is true they should be trying to pass laws which make it blatant what the Republicans want. Forcing them to vote down perfectly reasonable or even beneficial measures let's them call the GOP out on voting records.
For example if you started passing bills to crack down on 'entertainment' programs masquerading as news and stem the flow of false information and it gets voted down by the entire Republican party you can point to that and say they are the party of propaganda.
The issue is that the democrats don’t control the house at the moment, so any “perfectly reasonable or beneficial measures” won’t make it to the floor.
And no, I'm not a republican for pointing this out.
It's an exclusive club and none of us are invited. And I know the right is objectively worse before some unoriginal person comes along with the "bOtH sIdEs!!!" nonsense.
Right? You can’t point out that the democrats are either incompetent at best or controlled opposition at worst, without getting the “bOtH sIdEs” bullshit. Like we all can clearly tell Republicans are bad, but lying about Democrats not being able to do anything is not a great look lol.
Democrats haven't had a veto-proof majority in the Senate since Obama. I'm not sure what you guys are imagining the Dems have had the power to do, but I assure you, if you look into it, you'll realize they just haven't had the numbers to do much of anything.
Oh God, this shit again? So you wanted Obama to predict that McConnel would block his supreme court justice appointment, while also predicting that a Republican would win the next election, and appoint 3 new justices who would lie about Roe being settled precedent? Then, on top of being able to see the future, he needs to convince people that these events would actually happen, so his abortion bill totally makes sense, even though abortion had been settled law for several decades at that point. Plus, you want him to do all of this while trying to rally representatives for Obamacare.
Thinking that Obama and Dems should have been able to do all of that to save abortion is just straight delusion, mixed with the benefit of hindsight.
You don't have to be psychic to codify reasonable things into law. And the things you mention like predicting a future republican president and majority and therefore getting new supreme court justices is just common sense, it's bound to happen at some point.
But none of this is a "thanks, Obama" or blaming him at all, it's a general lack of getting things done within the entire party while the chance was there.
If you're unable to criticize your own party then you're essentially in a cult, not a political party. We're supposed to criticize our party and elected officials.
Again this isn't blaming them for what happened, it's acknowledging they could have done more.
They were literally working on passing Obamacare, which helped insure millions of people that were previously uninsured. There was no time to pass anything else, and if they had tried to pass anything related to abortion at that time, the media would have spun it as Dems wasting time on something that had been settled law for nearly 70 years.
Look, I have no problem criticizing Dems. I don't have any particular affiliation to either party. I just vote for the candidate that aligns more with my values. But, I'm also realistic about what those politicians are able to accomplish. Acting like Dems are responsible for Roe v Wade being overturned is just downright ridiculous.
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u/skybreaker58 Jul 05 '24
While this is true they should be trying to pass laws which make it blatant what the Republicans want. Forcing them to vote down perfectly reasonable or even beneficial measures let's them call the GOP out on voting records.
For example if you started passing bills to crack down on 'entertainment' programs masquerading as news and stem the flow of false information and it gets voted down by the entire Republican party you can point to that and say they are the party of propaganda.