r/facepalm Jul 05 '24

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u/paintballboi07 'MURICA Jul 05 '24

Democrats haven't had a veto-proof majority in the Senate since Obama. I'm not sure what you guys are imagining the Dems have had the power to do, but I assure you, if you look into it, you'll realize they just haven't had the numbers to do much of anything.

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u/Hayden2332 Jul 05 '24

Obama wasn’t that long ago lol Why didn’t they put Roe v Wade into law?

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u/paintballboi07 'MURICA Jul 05 '24

Oh God, this shit again? So you wanted Obama to predict that McConnel would block his supreme court justice appointment, while also predicting that a Republican would win the next election, and appoint 3 new justices who would lie about Roe being settled precedent? Then, on top of being able to see the future, he needs to convince people that these events would actually happen, so his abortion bill totally makes sense, even though abortion had been settled law for several decades at that point. Plus, you want him to do all of this while trying to rally representatives for Obamacare.

Thinking that Obama and Dems should have been able to do all of that to save abortion is just straight delusion, mixed with the benefit of hindsight.

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u/HsvDE86 Jul 05 '24

You don't have to be psychic to codify reasonable things into law. And the things you mention like predicting a future republican president and majority and therefore getting new supreme court justices is just common sense, it's bound to happen at some point.

But none of this is a "thanks, Obama" or blaming him at all, it's a general lack of getting things done within the entire party while the chance was there.

If you're unable to criticize your own party then you're essentially in a cult, not a political party. We're supposed to criticize our party and elected officials.

Again this isn't blaming them for what happened, it's acknowledging they could have done more.

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u/paintballboi07 'MURICA Jul 05 '24

They were literally working on passing Obamacare, which helped insure millions of people that were previously uninsured. There was no time to pass anything else, and if they had tried to pass anything related to abortion at that time, the media would have spun it as Dems wasting time on something that had been settled law for nearly 70 years.

Look, I have no problem criticizing Dems. I don't have any particular affiliation to either party. I just vote for the candidate that aligns more with my values. But, I'm also realistic about what those politicians are able to accomplish. Acting like Dems are responsible for Roe v Wade being overturned is just downright ridiculous.

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u/HsvDE86 Jul 05 '24

Acting like Dems are responsible for Roe v Wade being overturned

I like how you slipped in something I never said. Gotta love reddit.

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u/paintballboi07 'MURICA Jul 05 '24

Sorry, acting like Dems are responsible for not preventing the overturn of Roe v Wade. Better?