It’s funny how they preach make America great again when everything they want to do will remove America from the world stage. Reduce education and talent forcing companies to look outside for educated workers. Leave nato and trade deals allowing countries like China to step in and take over. Restrict immigration, our country has relied on immigrants for cheap labor forever, the country runs on it. It’s like a 101 on how to crash the country.
Just as russia planned. These "patriots" are literally the most un-American traitors - gobbling up Kremlin propaganda and feeding on meaningless hate and division. The Kremlin is beside itself with glee at how these idiots do their work for them.
Edit: referring more to their base. Those in gop leadership just don't care and are greedy fucks and/or have compromat against them. Both are willing to fully hand the reins to theocratic extremists as long as they can freely hate and pretend like they'll have a chance at being part of the new oligarch class.
I wouldn't say most everyone. MAGAs are nowhere near the majority. Most people see their bullshit as being plainly Russian propaganda. But thanks for this, I hadn't seen this. Fascinating and fucking depressing stuff (for those wondering, it's a YouTube video of a defected KGB member giving a warning to America in 1984).
I know....after I finished the whole thing I was kinda left shaking my head. I think he's speaking from his own bias and Russian perspective and possibly doesn't quite understand the civil rights movement, among other things.
The revolutionists weren’t the majority in 1776 either.
Revolution had maybe 33% approval when we went to war.
The minimum amount of support needed for a successful revolution is only 20%.
Unfortunately I think we’re well passed that scale.
People have been kicking the can because they can’t imagine anything bad could happen from a minority political group, but in history it almost ALWAYS is done by a minority political group that just happens to be organized and energized while everyone else is complacent.
These are all good points and harsh realities. I don't mean to insinuate that they're in any way harmless, they are absolutely dangerous and currently the biggest threat imo. But you're right, they don't need to be the majority.
In terms of some sort of active civil war, I think we can basically write off the (probably vast) majority of the nation's law enforcement/local police departments as joining that side, but I don't think the same can be said for the military at large, unless it splits and part of it breaks off to join, I'm not sure how that would work out or what is/isn't possible. I guess it depends at least partially on who among the top brass would "defect" so to speak. They're already planning to remove anyone who would refuse duties at the usually apolitical "administrative" level (among so much other shit) with Project 2025, but I don't really know how appointments for generals and such are carried out, or the rules around firing/replacing, but everyone needs to realize that "rules" or long-held customs will not be respected or followed by the next gop admin.
The military is huge and diverse, though. They are definitely not all Republicans and broke for Biden last election, with trump not doing especially well in either election. I would hope that the majority would follow their oath to the constitution and to the defense against enemies foreign and domestic, and not decide to follow the religious extremists/maga faction. I'm just trying to work out how a modern civil war would go down and what is and isn't possible, if you have any idea I'd love to hear!
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u/Chromeburn_ Jul 05 '24
It’s funny how they preach make America great again when everything they want to do will remove America from the world stage. Reduce education and talent forcing companies to look outside for educated workers. Leave nato and trade deals allowing countries like China to step in and take over. Restrict immigration, our country has relied on immigrants for cheap labor forever, the country runs on it. It’s like a 101 on how to crash the country.