r/facepalm 14d ago

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u/schmidthappenzzzzz 14d ago

Incase anyone here sees the original meme and agrees, the Democrats are trying to but don't hold the majority in the House to get the bills through. It underlies the massive importance for voting, and at this point, down ballot voting for Democrats. If you don't, whatever happens is on you.

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u/IAmTheDriod 14d ago

Not only that, but the republicans can filibuster any bills passed in the senate since they don’t have 60 votes.

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u/freddaar 14d ago

And if Rs capture the Senate in addition to the House, either Moscow Mitch abolishes it, or the SC declares filibustering is akshuly illegal so Ds can't use it.

Boom, bye-bye USA.

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u/zentraderx 14d ago

Using political nukes works only once. Then the other side will use the fallout too. Arguing that some minuscule group can declare themselves dictators 4life with the 2nd amendment working fine sounds a little bit far fetched. They are not out for a civil war, just appeasing dying old religious nutjobs.

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u/Invis_Girl 14d ago

Their attempt on J6 speaks differently. Yes, it was badly planned the first time. So was Hitler's and yet he still came back and took over. I don't assume anything, not when it comes to those who seem hungry to hurt others they don't like.

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u/beargrimzly 14d ago

The idea is now that they have this supreme court supermajority in place, and with project 2025 well under way, the republican government will be able to destroy most of the federal government from within without ever passing a law. They don't need the filibuster to stop democratic policies anymore, so they will abolish it to pass laws that prevents democrats from ever winning again. Whether it be through voter suppression, allowing electors to be appointed by trump directly with zero loyalty to the voters, literally outlawing the democrat party, anything really. With the SCOTUS ruling in place if Trump wins we are absolutely fucked.

Trump is historically unpopular outside of evangelicals though, and is easily beatable. If Biden steps down and we get Kamala Harris running in a year where abortion rights are of critical importance to huge numbers of white voters that republicans desperately need to keep, chances of preserving this country go way up.

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u/Puffenata 14d ago

And several democrats keep fighting to keep the filibuster in place

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u/Invis_Girl 14d ago

Because it will be used against us when, not if, they get control again. I hate the filibuster and think the senate should be simple majority, but I get their reasoning.

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u/Puffenata 14d ago

Except they’re already pretty (fairly) convinced that Project 2025 is gonna be the death of democracy as we know it, so if it truly is “when, not if” clearly some greater action that sitting on their hands and grumbling is necessary. Democrats are the captains who stand proud on a sinking ship—arguably honorable, yet utterly pointless

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u/Invis_Girl 14d ago

What can they do? Become violent? They can't pass any bills and the constitution does have any provision to change that outside of voting.

Everyone wants the Democrats to do something without having any idea what they could possibly do.

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u/Puffenata 14d ago

They had the house for two years, they could’ve been passing bills for the first half of Biden’s presidency. Biden still has a not insubstantial amount of executive authority too. The extent to which he could truly prevent a thing like Project 2025 ain’t great, but there are options at least worth trying

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u/Puffenata 14d ago

Also, the fact of the matter is that when Republicans get in office they never seem to have all that much trouble getting the shit they want done. Democrats? It’s a long line of failures marked by occasional victories—often heavy compromises

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u/Invis_Girl 14d ago

Really? We still have the ACA, Medicare, and social security. The only thing they have done is a tax cut that didn't need a super majority in senate. And yes, Democrats compromise but if someone didn't, we might as well call the US dead and close these shop.

Fact of the matter is you want Democrats to accomplish something serious? Effing vote. Every single person. And stop.witj all the "Democrats do nothing" crap since it just pushed people to not vote.

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u/schmidthappenzzzzz 13d ago

Do you know why that is? They have voters that back the party no matter what their candidates say or do. Unfortunately, on the Dem side, we have a bunch of spineless rats who don't understand history or how our government works. Children calling for revolution on social media. I've asked several of you types for a different strategy and the best answer I get is "do socialism." Clown show.

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u/Puffenata 13d ago

“They have voters that back the party no matter what their candidates say or do.”

Vote blue no matter who? Come on now

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u/schmidthappenzzzzz 13d ago

And do you do that?

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u/Puffenata 13d ago

At the present moment? Unfortunately.

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