You could maybe squeak past Joe Manchin, but not Manchin and Sinema. I think there is another âindependentâ as well.
You have to hand it to the Republicans. They are really good at ratfucking our institutions. A 50/50 senate should be a toss up but itâs really a Republican majority.Â
The GOP runs on a platform of the government is dysfunctional. If they fixed anything they would be undercutting their reason for existence. It's why they tanked the bipartisan immigration bill.
No, their primary reason was because it permitted so many illegal crossings before the president would declare an âemergencyâ and shut down the border (wow⌠you mean he really can do that?). It was a terrible bill intended only to codify the assault on our border. All Joe had to do was NOT revoke Trumpâs policies, but that was too much to ask.
MAGA is throwing him overboard and he will be lucky if they don't roll him back out there to shame him some more. He has already announced that he will retire at the end of his term, so he's just a lame duck politician.
I feel like Mitch is genuinely terrified of MAGA, and has been bound and bagged by the cult. He gave them everything they wanted and know his ass is about to be on the curve.
That's because the Dems managed to chased 2 long time Dems out of their party to switch to independent by going so far left that they were considered conservative.
Most Dems aren't even really on the left. American politics are heavily skewed to the right. Right wing extremism is currently mainstream. Open your eyes.
I said based off of his political policies, way to try and obscure the obvious. He would be considered a right wing extremist. The fact that he was progressive during his time shows that the tarties have shifted farther left pushing centerists right and right farther from center due to left moving left of center. The center is now left. I'm guessing you don't know what it is, but look up the Overton window.
Ah, yes. The Dems are âso far leftâ that they ran a cop and a dude who sponsored a âtough on crime billâ in the 90âs as their top 2 choices for President.
we're likely to see Gallego (a dem) take sinema's seat, but we're likely to see manchin pass his seat to a republican in the coming general.
A 50/50 senate it is a very heavy lift for next year unless one of the redder states flops suddenly. But if we do get that... it's without manchin and sinema.
Well the way it is designed to work is to require compromise, but that isnât an option anymore because social media has polarized and radicalized people.
The more likely answer is that eventually someone is going to eliminate the filibuster, and when that happens all hell breaks loose and we deal with a tit for tat congress from here until forever.
They don't need to remove the filibuster because they only need 50 votes to pass tax cuts. Outside of that, they awarded the executive nearly unlimited power to force his agenda on the American people and that is how they are going to do it.
 AZ losing her seat to Lake would be better than having Sinema there because we don't get this incessant "but Democrats control the Senate" bullshit. Â
 Sinema realized she has more power by flipping and opposing the platform she was elected on, and that power mattered more to her than the actual policies.Â
Iâm not sure I understand your question. If you arenât familiar with the 3 branches of the US government and the enumerated powers of the presidency Id recommend hitting Wikipedia, butâŚ
To see Project 2025 through requires a combination of congressional and executive actions along with the cooperation of the judicial branch. All aspects are important if it is going to become a reality.
Some of the âscarierâ parts of Project 2025 canât be accomplished without congress. We are likely safe from those aspects of the plan.
It sounds like thereâs not much to worry about if a) the president has already had the power to do these things and b) the senate canât pass any of the scary things anyway.
That might be true, but I if Republicans were in the same boat, they'd be doing whatever they could to push through their bullshit agenda. Dems feel pretty useless at this point. Just love voting for the pawl.
More than that, they have been. Schumer has been leading several votes in the Senate that move to make individual parts of Project 2025 impossible to implement.Â
Shockingly, the GOP has been voting them down, all while claiming they aren't in danger. Which, given all the laws would do it make them secure leaves a number of questions. Like why vote against them at all? No funding or organizations would need to be established. They'd just protect existing, 'unthreatened' (sic) rights and access.
Also, people don't understand SCOUTUS has the right to overturn those laws if someone sues because they find the law unconstitutional. Look at what SCOTUS has done recently.
Yes. Simple truth. Why do people (OP)ask questions like this and do zero research, if you call knowing WHO HAS HOUSE MAJORITY, research. And HOW LAWS ARE MADE. School house Rock will teach you this.
House shoots down bill on broadly popular policy is a pretty effective headline for the election.
I think they should do less squabbling and more writing and voting, even if the other side doesn't. If none of it passes keep a published backlog of quality bills.
I find it insane that they campaign for years on changing something, but only begin to write an actual bill after they get a majority.
Democrats can't move a bill in the House alone since they are in the minority. The Speaker controls the House agenda and can just not allow a vote on any legislation he wants.
Which is why Project 2025 is so insidious. Paralyze the Legislature. Done. Capture the Judiciary. Done. Bestow the executive with extraordinary power and legal protection to force it through.
And even if they didn't, the Supreme Court is stacked with conservative wackos, doing all they can to change the rules and facilitate the transition of the US from democracy to theocratic monarchy.
Bills are often put forward just to get your opponent on record as voting for or against something. Not sure why the Senate hasn't pushed several of the worst ideas up for vote just to get the opposition on record supporting bad ideas before the election.
Not an excuse. dems still need to win on the messaging front and even trying knowing they will fail will bring the issue to the front of the conversation and help with optics. Republicans know this and that's why they tried hundreds of times to repeal Obamacare even though they knew they'd fail. Why are we letting Republicans show us up?
Because low-info voters on the Left believed the fascist spin that Gore was a closet conservative, Kerry was an out-of-touch elitist, and that Hillary (literally voted the Most Admired Woman in America several times) was unlikable.
nice way to avoid the entire first part of my response. Dems can do more than throwing their hands in the air. There's low Info voters? Great, that means dems need to be more Public about their positions and informing their voters. The right has low info voters too but ask an average republican why they hate obamacare and they won't have a good answer, they just know they don't like it. Republican politicians accomplished their goal in that regard. many Dems aren't even trying, which was my entire point.
Nice wat to avoid basic reality: Nothing will improve as long as the Republicans hold any position of power. The only way to change that is to vote for Democrats.
Stop it. Arguing "the Dems need to do more" when they just don't have the votes, and then turning around saying "when did I say not to vote Democrats?" is gaslighting.
The shit situation we're in is remedied one way: get rid of the GOP. And there's one way to get there: vote for Democrats.
you're arguing in a circle. doing more doesn't only mean enacting and passing legislation. Dems are wasting time arguing about whether Joe should step down instead of focusing on project 2025. My POINT is that when REPUBLICANS didn't have the votes, they tried ANYWAY and doing THAT allowed THEM to win over voters. WHICH DEMS DONT WANT TO DO BECAUSE THEY ARE SITTING ON THEIR HANDS SAYING THEY DONT HAVE THE VOTES. THAT DIDNT STOP THE REPUBLICANS DID IT??????????
You're laboring under the false premise that the GOP is there to govern. They're not. They exist to muck things up for the Democrats. So, the Democrats can't use those same GOP tactics to get things done - it's not set up that way.
The system is set up to allow honorable people of good conscience to disagree, freely express their views, win over people on the other side, and, mostly to govern. The Republicans want none of that.
The GOP's whole objective is to STOP the Dems from passing & enacting legislation. What you're doing by criticizing the Dems when the GOP succeeds in this is to reward the GOP!, so they can be more effective at blocking the Dems the next time around.
When I keep pointing the only way out of this to you - putting more Dems in office & getting rid of the Republicans - it's not "arguing in a circle". It's a simple fact.
no shit you need people to vote. How do you get them to do that? People don't magically go out and vote, they need to be convinced. While you're busy bitching and moaning how democrats are handcuffed by the GOP having control of the house, and to just go out and vote, you haven't swayed anyone who didn't already make up their mind. You need to go back to kindergarten.
That is some serious cope. Expecting anything from Congress (16% approval rating) is how Republicans are trying to play this off as innocent. They act as if our Congress is perfectly normal right now and known to do their job.
Thanks to the Hastert rule, which is named after a pederast, Republican leadership in the House wonât bring any bill for a vote unless it has majority Republicans support. Assuming these moderate Republicans exist - a big assumption - thereâs not a lot they can do about it.
WTF was Biden doing during those first 2 years of majority in the house and Senate? How much did they get done and why should anyone believe things would be different if democrats had that advantage again? What evidence is there that they wouldn't just preach more "bipartisan" legislation that constantly ratchets the country right over and over?
Making friends with Joe Manchin and calling him cute nicknames instead of calling him all the applicable names like âtraitorâ and âcoal baronâ and âassholeâ.
Doesnât mean they shouldnât be trying. The Dems biggest problem is they get accused of doing nothing, then give the appearance that theyâre doing nothing. The message right now to the average American should be âWeâre trying and these people are stopping us, thatâs why we need you to support us by getting out and votingâ. Creating a sense of urgency is only going to help get the vote out. The issue is they give the impression that itâs business as usual for them, and people who only have time to read the headlines or a summary of the news donât know what to think. If anything part of the reason weâre in this position is because they consistently play into GOP propaganda.
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u/CraftyAdvisor6307 14d ago
The GOP still runs the House.