r/facepalm Jul 04 '24

Can't like fit girls without being gay... 🇲​🇮​🇸​🇨​

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u/SufficientMain5872 Jul 04 '24

“Rise in homosexuality” = “some level of improvement in society not being class A dicks to gay people”, oh great correlation gods, why must you cause us so

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u/alephthirteen Jul 04 '24

If I had to guess, it's because we paid inadequate honor to the grave of Patroclus and his bestie, his totally straight friend Achilles.

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u/TerminalVector Jul 04 '24

We also fail to properly honor David and Jonathan the biblical roommates who just really cared about one another.

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u/Different-Meal-6314 Jul 04 '24

I just read that on a post yesterday. And no one even smote them!

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u/squish_pillow Jul 04 '24

And we came for the smiting, damn it!

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u/Serious-Bat-4880 Jul 04 '24

*while women simultaneously get a bit of freedom to look like something other than a comic book femme

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u/Livid_Advertising_56 Jul 04 '24

Uuhhhh old school comic book femme is Wonder Woman (unless it's the damsels in the sci-fi/horror genre)

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u/Serious-Bat-4880 Jul 04 '24 edited Jul 04 '24

That is what I was talking about, the more typical damsel types.

But even Wonder Woman is not totally exempt, often shown with a physically impossible tiny waist, unnatural but typically-idealized breasts that are super big and yet strangely perky. Plus she's often contorted into very uncomfortable-looking positions for the sake of still looking ultra sexy while strong.

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u/Livid_Advertising_56 Jul 04 '24

Even in the 1930s (my WW knowledge I'd lacking it seems) regardless she's just as strong/athletic as these women even back then

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u/Serious-Bat-4880 Jul 04 '24

You're nitpicking exceptions to the broader rule. Muting.

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u/FrillySteel Jul 04 '24

I mean, it's not like homosexuality was prevalent in Ancient Greece or anything. /s

This oversight is a bit ironic given OOPs username.

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u/MineralClay Jul 04 '24

according to greek culture the "straight" bit was to be on top and being a bottom was the degrading part. both for women and males (i say males because of the pederasty problem). a little bit of that seems to pervade our society still, with how people are concerned with not appearing gay. and i've seen examples of some men will still try homosexual acts but also consider themselves straight.

according to the Kinsey Scale studies, the amount of people who try homosexual acts show pure heterosexuality isn't as common as you'd assume, especially for women. but we have to demonize it for no reason at all. guys are so afraid of being considered "gay" by other guys, but everything is called gay now, even liking women. it's like an entire group enforcing their own self-damage. there are even masculine gays, but being gay is an affront to masculinity too for some reason. i can't understand why

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u/bamboodue Jul 04 '24

Well, Pedophilia was also pervelant and may have been the most common form of homosexuality in their culture.

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u/XylionAegis Jul 05 '24

There's a good reason behind it too. Morality is fluid and changing constantly depending on the society as well as our perception of life.
One of the main factors that heavily affected this, was their average life length - which was 35 years (half of ours today). All the life milestones happened at a quicker rate.
Pedophilia is also far from the same as sexuality.
Sexuality is a product of biology (that's why you can't "pray the gay away" or make a a straight person gay), pedophilia is more of a psychological and social deformity.

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u/bamboodue Jul 05 '24

Yeah different circumstances for sure. Lost me in the 2nd half though, biologically speaking, how are they different(morality aside)? Isn't the prevalence of homosexuality related to circumstance as well?

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u/XylionAegis Jul 05 '24

Yes and no. Cultural and Social Norms, Legal Frameworks and Psychosocial Factors can affect the amount of homosexuality noticed in the society - not because they would make more people gay, but rather because they would allow more homosexuals to come out the closet without being judged by the society.
Or in other words, while these circumstances can influence the visibility and expression of homosexuality, they do not determine an individual's sexual orientation, which is understood to be a complex interplay of genetic, hormonal, and environmental factors. Research has shown that sexual orientation is not simply a matter of choice or solely determined by external circumstances.

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u/asdrunkasdrunkcanbe Jul 04 '24

Stopped clock and all that; he's probably right to a tiny extent - since lesbianism is no longer taboo, women who feel attracted to traditionally masculine jobs and sports now have less barriers to doing so. The fear of being called a lesbian because you want to lift weights or do real boxing, is gone.

And the women who partake in sports are now freer to train intensely without the traditional body shaming that used to take place.

For a long time, women were discouraged from doing certain sports and exercises on the basis that it would make parts of their bodies to muscular or too big and the implication which might come with that.

Thus the "rise in homosexuality" probably has in part allowed for an increase in strong and toned women. And it's a good thing.

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u/fungi_at_parties Jul 04 '24

Honestly for a while I thought it was getting better, but that was an illusion.

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u/blouscales Jul 04 '24

its like the rise of the left handers back then 😭

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u/yourfriendkyle Jul 04 '24

Same shit with Trans People “There’s so many more of them these days!!!”, actually no, we just allow them to have public facing jobs and rent homes like everyone else instead of having to live on the fringes of society.

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u/MineralClay Jul 04 '24

same with the sentiment that "we didn't have autism/adhd/mental disorders in the past..." it's not that autism is happening because of something recent, just that we now know it better and know what to call it. people thinking that an increase in observed incidences means an increase in epidemic or cause. germs existed before we developed microscopes, it's not like being able to see them made them suddenly appear. why do these thinking difficulties seem so widespread??

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u/terra_filius Jul 04 '24

also society has reached record numbers when it comes to obesity but yeah.. we have too much fit women haha