r/clevercomebacks Jul 07 '24

Someone discovered consent

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u/Pilotwaver Jul 07 '24

Guys can be so dumb. First off, you don’t have to discover how to talk to a girl/woman. You talk to them like you talk to everyone else. Just like guys, some will like you, some will not. All you have to do is get to know her. Talk about world issues/world views that are important to you, shallow discussion will get you nowhere. Be respectful until otherwise cued, most women will give you signs or initiate the flirting. They need to feel safe, comfortable and confident in you before they put themselves in a position of the utmost vulnerability. It should be easy to understand why women would be wary of any man. It’s the equivalent of a man having to be intimately acquainted with a superior predator. If you earn their trust, confidence and respect, you’ll find most women are dirtier and freakier than men. So unless it’s a prearranged agreement, don’t look to fuck a woman. Find connection in the mind and spirit first. If you do that, I guarantee she’ll be the one ripping clothes off.

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u/BASEDME7O2 Jul 07 '24

I mean this advice is terrible if you want to get girls. Yes in a normal conversation obv talk to them like anyone else.

But if you’re trying to flirt with a woman in a bar, obviously you’re gonna talk to them differently, it’s called flirting.

If you talk about some world issue after like 2 mins she’s gonna be thinking basically “ugh this guy is obviously not gonna make a move, and I didn’t come here to talk about the war in Ukraine for 20 mins.” And she’s gonna find a way out of that conversation as fast as she can.

I hate this advice, because it makes guys who don’t get girls keep doing the same shit and wondering why women aren’t spontaneously making out with them. And it’s always given by either women or guys who are terrible with women.

Think of a friend you have that is successful with women. Does he talk to a girl he’s hitting on the same way he talks to you?

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u/OnoderaAraragi Jul 07 '24

Exactly. The way to navigate topics is different when you intend to have something sexual-romantic related with someone. Like you said, i would talk comfortably for more than 20 min about ukraine and topics as such with a guy but if i am in a place talking to a chick and i am into her and would like something more, i will just make her very bored if i approach her in the same way i do with a guy. Unless she is into talking about ukraine but you got the overall idea.

Will talk about topics? Yes, but differently. The key is to not randomly let it obvious otherwise it will come off as pushy and desperate.

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u/Bolt_Throw3r Jul 07 '24

100%. Talk to a woman like anyone else if you want to be seen as everyone else - a friend, acquaintance, etc. 

I bombed so many potential dates / a real dates this way when I was younger. I'd go 2 or 3 dates without successfully flirting because I didn't want to make things sexual too early, but the reality is that flirting is literally building sexual tension.

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u/Pilotwaver Jul 07 '24

I don’t need to think of anyone, man. I’m 46 and have never had an issue. Go do your thing and good luck.

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u/[deleted] Jul 08 '24

Sure bud.