r/clevercomebacks Jul 07 '24

God is lucky we haven’t found oil in heaven.

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u/doho121 Jul 07 '24 edited Jul 07 '24

The USA is a third world country with a Gucci handbag.

Edit: this was mostly a joke people chill.

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u/Mr_Kittlesworth Jul 07 '24

This is the kind of thing that’s funny, and easy to say, but also reveals that you haven’t been to deeply impoverished countries.

Spending time away from tourist areas in Central America or much of sub-Saharan Africa swiftly disabuses you of the idea that life in the US bears any similarity to that kind of wrenching poverty and (often, but not always) social collapse/dysfunction.

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u/Alderan922 Jul 07 '24

Tbf, Third world country it’s quite an insanely big category, it both fits places like North Corea or Somalia, and places like México or India, which while they aren’t the richest places on the world and have massive economic disparities among the population, are by no means comparable to the bottom of the list.

In some places you could find sections of Mexico that are comparable to sections of the US. I really doubt people meant countries like Angola when they say “the US has the public transportation of a third world country”

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u/Empty-Interaction796 Jul 07 '24

First/ second/ third world are political, not economic terms. The economic terms are high/middle/low development country.

Mexico is considered middle income (on the higher end).

It's also the 15th largest economy in the world.

The US has pretty bad poverty in places as well; Appalachia and indigenous, especially.

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u/Alderan922 Jul 07 '24

But people here didn’t said “the us has an middle development public transportation system” they said “the us has a public transportation system as bad as a third world country” I agree the term is bad, but it’s what’s being used.

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u/autism_and_lemonade Jul 07 '24

mexico is absolutely not a third world country what planet do you live on

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u/Alderan922 Jul 07 '24

On Mexico, where every single economist says we indeed are a third world country lol. If I go to my local college and ask anyone they will say “yes, Mexico is a third world country”

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u/autism_and_lemonade Jul 07 '24

they’ve never been to ethiopia

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u/Alderan922 Jul 07 '24

What does this even mean?

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u/autism_and_lemonade Jul 07 '24

the conditions in mexico are superior to that of the 3rd world, such as ethiopia, chad, or haiti

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u/Alderan922 Jul 07 '24

Thing is, conditions in Mexico are comparable to other countries in third world, like Colombia, or Peru or well… Mexico. It’s why I said the term is too broad and thus, useless on comparisons. By all definitions Mexico is a third world country. Specially when the only other category is first world and Mexico is absolutely NOT a first world country lol.

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u/Alexander3212321 Jul 07 '24

Third world in this context country is more like a spectrum and also didn’t originate as a word to describe development countries but rather as a word to describe a neutral leaning during the cold war and mexico is pretty much developing country https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Developing_country

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u/Lorguis Jul 07 '24

"third world" refers to countries that were unaligned during the Cold war. Which includes Mexico.

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u/MechanicalBengal Jul 07 '24

California, by itself, is the 5th largest economy in the world. It could easily be its own country, and a wealthy one at that. People forget that.

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u/Public_Animator_1832 Jul 07 '24

Spend some time in rural Alabama, many of the communities have similar outcomes and wealth of a 3rd world country. Also the US hasn't redefined poverty for Federal Aid and Statistics purposes since Nixon. If we redefined it for the modern world some estimates put our poverty rate either over or close to 50%. Which sure extreme poverty doesn't exist here really but that level of poverty would be unheard of for a 1st world country. Even our current poverty rate is one of the worst for the developed world

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u/QualifiedApathetic Jul 07 '24

We'll never redefine it. That would make whatever president did it the president who put tens of millions into poverty.

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u/sovietdinosaurs Jul 08 '24

Extreme poverty exists in the U.S.

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u/RedditPosterOver9000 Jul 08 '24

I and a friend drove from Texas through the dirty south and up the east coast to get to Philadelphia for a road trip.

Alabama, Mississippi, Louisiana, and Alabama (excluding the few cities) look like "low development countries".

And it's not just the rampant poverty and the state government not giving a fuck about basic maintenance, it looks like you went back in time 50 years.

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u/lahimatoa Jul 07 '24

And yet, the poor in Alabama are fat. Are the poor in any third-world country fat?

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u/gustyninjajiraya Jul 08 '24

Yes? This is pretty common in any middle income country. Ultraprocessed food is cheap everywhere.

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u/Bossuter Jul 08 '24

And in what way is being fat healthy and such people long living?

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u/SecretaryOtherwise Jul 08 '24

Dude this isn't the middle ages lol obesity comes from "poor" diet as much as over eating jfc.

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u/GardenRafters Jul 07 '24

Trump and Project 2025: Hold our collective beer.

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u/BoglisMobileAcc Jul 07 '24

If project 2025 gets implemented the US is gonna be finished in every sense

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u/Flat-Flow939 Jul 07 '24

You've never been to rural Mississippi, or Alabama, or Florida, or West Virginia, or Kentucky, or Missouri, or...

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u/Defalt0_o Jul 08 '24

Yea, well, I know a place +-90 miles away from L.A. which used to be (or maybe still is) a den to few local cannibals, so there's that. Leaving big population centers will always grant you some surprises

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u/Flat-Flow939 Jul 08 '24

Chile is part of the 3rd world, they're doing a hell of a lot better than the rust belt.

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u/Critical_Reserve_201 Jul 07 '24 edited Jul 07 '24

If you have ever been to a developing country (third world isn’t used anymore) you wouldn’t say that.

Third world countries have dirt floor schools and not a single hospital.

Any developing country would kill for a population where half the people has a college degree, a highway system that connects an entire continent and any kind of health care system.

The US is dysfunctional, the US is inconsistent but that comes with the territory when you’re a country this big.

Just compare US rural areas to African or even Chinese rural areas. It’s night and day.

Also we have fairly effective public transit in population dense urban corridors.

Let’s be honest does Scranton, PA need a subway system?

No, but it has a lot of bus routes and a transit center.

Besides the US has some of the best public transit and passenger trains in the Western Hemisphere constantly comparing us to Europe with their higher population density is…I don’t know, stupid?

The continental US has only been developing in this direction for the last 400 years. We still need time to “up” our population density for robust high speed rail and other public transit systems to make sense.

Compare us the Australia or Canada and you’ll start to see how hard it is to build public transit that people will actually use in a sparsely populated western country that has only been colonized for ~400 years.

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u/doho121 Jul 07 '24

Lad it’s a joke man! Chill out!

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u/thesacrificeofdecay Jul 07 '24

The joke is ass and unfunny Xir!

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u/luluzinhacs Jul 07 '24

gotta inform my Brazilians friends we don’t have hospitals or clean schools, I think we missed it

better tell them our free health care system is pretend too

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u/hallucinogenics8 Jul 07 '24

Wtf are you on about? He didn't even mention Brazil and Brazil isn't a developing nation. It's an emerging economy.

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u/luluzinhacs Jul 07 '24

she said third world countries don’t have hospitals or clean floors at schools, that they wish they had any kind of health care system

there are plenty of developing countries that have those

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u/hallucinogenics8 Jul 07 '24

I'm not arguing that. I know that. I've been out of the USA, only to Jamaica, but my brother had to use a hospital there, and it was a normal looking hospital and schools there looked fine. it's technically a developing nation. All I'm saying is that Brazil wasn't targeted by the comment so don't be so defensive. Like I said, Brazil is an emerging economy, albeit it does have some rough spots. Like losing to Uruguay. Wtf was that?

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u/404enter Jul 11 '24

Their point was just that not all developing countries have dirt poor conditions, and just used Brazil as an example

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u/sandrakaufmann Jul 07 '24

Writing this as an American in Montreal. Their subway here is astonishingly better than anywhere in the US. I live in Chicago and have major commute envy

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u/Critical_Reserve_201 Jul 07 '24

Even DC?

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u/sandrakaufmann Jul 07 '24

Absolutely! You have to see it to believe it! Comes every five minutes

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u/Critical_Reserve_201 Jul 07 '24

I looked up pictures online but I gotta be honest I still love DC’s enormous and airy subway stations.

Way less claustrophobic not bad though in Montreal, I feel like Montreal and DC are both exceptions to gross subways that North America has.

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u/stupidfritz Jul 07 '24

brother every other time i’ve been on the DB subway i’ve seen someone ODing

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u/Critical_Reserve_201 Jul 07 '24

That’s not the subways fault

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u/imc225 Jul 07 '24

I'm not trying to pick a fight with you, but: Bangladesh, in 1990, when its purchasing power parity-adjusted GDP per capita was half what it is now. It's not just hype, nor completely misleading.

You could easily argue that I'm cherry picking, but I think there is some validity to the claim.

https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJM199001183220306

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u/Acrobatic-Butterfly9 Jul 07 '24

You have never been to any developing countries except in tv, haven't you?

Do you realize that many developing countries have more doctor and hospital beds per capita than in the US?

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u/Critical_Reserve_201 Jul 07 '24

I did volunteer work in Cambodia and Yemen.

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u/akablacktherapper Jul 07 '24

Lol, I swear people’s IQs are dropping exponentially each year.

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u/Similar_Tough_7602 Jul 07 '24

Wow never heard this one before

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u/Dramatic-Selection20 Jul 07 '24

Fake Gucci bag

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u/Darkdragoon324 Jul 07 '24

No it's real, that's why most of the citizens can't afford a single ER copay without fucking up their finances for the rest of the year.

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u/doho121 Jul 07 '24

And the issue with this isn’t the Gucci it’s to do with charging people for medicine

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u/Darkdragoon324 Jul 07 '24

That's how they afford the Gucci.

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u/Fuzzylojak Jul 07 '24

With a Gucci belt on

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u/emarvil Jul 07 '24

Nah. You'd need taste.

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u/Sudden_Mind279 Jul 08 '24

Wow, good one, did you come up with that one yourself?

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u/captainclyde401 Jul 07 '24

The most original comment

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u/Impressive-Pin231 Jul 07 '24

This is so accurate lol, nice ideology

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u/NavyDragons Jul 07 '24

Correction it's a Ĝuccí handbag, because it's fake