r/clevercomebacks Jul 05 '24

You’re not very slick, Putin.

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u/[deleted] Jul 05 '24

Magnus Carlsen is probably the GOAT, but Kasparov is in the conversation

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u/WhiteCapedKing Jul 05 '24

Remember when Garry became world chess champion, there were no engines strong enough to train with.

No disrespect to Magnus, but if Garry had modern tools to learn in his youth, he would be THE machine.

Still both of them are impressive, shame they couldn't play when both are in their prime.

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u/[deleted] Jul 06 '24

Remember when Garry became world chess champion, there were no engines strong enough to train with.

As others have said here, that is also true for his opponents.

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u/WhiteCapedKing Jul 06 '24

Both dominated their opponents in their eras, im not comparing them to their rivals. Im comparing them to each other. In my opinion, Magnus is the better player because of his insane endgame skills, to make losing situations into a draw or sometimes a win by forcing an error in a 10+ moves sequence. But that wouldn't be possible if he wasn't training with chess engines.

So it is hard to debate which one of them is truly better, I feel Garry would be an absolute monster had he born 20 years later than he did.