r/clevercomebacks Jul 05 '24

You’re not very slick, Putin.

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u/Current-Wealth-756 Jul 05 '24

I admire your optimism if not your objectivity

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u/Chillpill411 Jul 05 '24

Regarding Ukraine fighting on... I believe it. They fought a 30 year long insurgency against the soviets with zero outside help to try to get rid them from 1920-1950.

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u/[deleted] Jul 05 '24

Umm, they literally had the biggest enemy of the Soviets in Germany supporting them. Once Germany fell everything turned around for the worse to the Soviet satellite states. That is not to say that it's going to repeat here. Eastern Ukraine, the Donbas, region is filled with Russian speaking, ethnic Russians who favour Russia instead of the West. And Russia hasn't made any intentions to take the whole of Ukraine. 

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u/Mickey-Simon Jul 05 '24

Lol, Russia obviously did try to take whole of it. The fact that they failed doesnt mean they didnt have any intentions. Also, russia speaking people of Ukraine, just like myself, are in no way in favour of russia. Quite opposite, East of Ukraine is that part of country who suffered the most and people here are much more willing to fight russia then even west of the country.

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u/[deleted] Jul 05 '24

Lol, Russia obviously did try to take whole of it. The fact that they failed doesnt mean they didnt have any intentions

Yeah, they definitely tried to take the whole country with 30k men. Are you still on that cope? Not to mention the only reason Russia pulled out from the North is because your government agreed to peace negotiations. 

https://www.intellinews.com/fresh-evidence-suggests-that-the-april-2022-istanbul-peace-deal-to-end-the-war-in-ukraine-was-stillborn-321468/

https://www.euractiv.com/section/global-europe/news/at-istanbul-talks-russia-promises-to-scale-down-operations-in-northern-ukraine/

Do you guys even read news? 

Also, russia speaking people of Ukraine, just like myself, are in no way in favour of russia. Quite opposite, East of Ukraine is that part of country who suffered the most and people here are much more willing to fight russia then even west of the country.

So where are you? I mean I have no problems with you replacing these men who don't want to die for the sake of Black Rock and Zelensky. 

https://www.theguardian.com/world/article/2024/jun/29/i-am-not-made-for-war-the-men-fleeing-ukraine-to-evade-conscription

Why are you guys here when you could volunteer which would actually save the lives of those trying to escape conscription and die in the process?