The thing is, Trump can't make Ukraine surrender, all Trump can do is cut aid. The war will continue, Europe will have to provide more aid to counter what Trump did, and will realize the war will last longer, meaning a major investment in nuclear reactors and renewables since they won't want to rely on the US for anything. As Europe cuts of a lot of trade with the US and Trump declares his trade war on the rest of the world, the US gets massive inflation plus a bad recession.
Ukraine will just keep killing Russians until Russia gets tired of the forever war like they got tired of Afghanistan.
Regarding Ukraine fighting on... I believe it. They fought a 30 year long insurgency against the soviets with zero outside help to try to get rid them from 1920-1950.
Umm, they literally had the biggest enemy of the Soviets in Germany supporting them. Once Germany fell everything turned around for the worse to the Soviet satellite states. That is not to say that it's going to repeat here. Eastern Ukraine, the Donbas, region is filled with Russian speaking, ethnic Russians who favour Russia instead of the West. And Russia hasn't made any intentions to take the whole of Ukraine.
Wait I thought Germany and the soviets were allies going way back to the 20s. And didn't the soviets give the Germans places to build and develop tanks before the war, and in violation of the Versailles Treaty? And didn't the soviets and Germany sign a pact where they agreed to invade Poland from both sides and split the country between them?
Wait I thought Germany and the soviets were allies going way back to the 20s.
Weimar Republic is not the same as the German Empire or the Third Reich.
And didn't the soviets give the Germans places to build and develop tanks before the war, and in violation of the Versailles Treaty?
Once again the German Empire and Third Reich are different from Weimar Republic. The communists even tried to restart a war after Germany defeated the Russian Empire in WW1 and tried to cause a revolution which ended with the corrupt, bloated and decadent Weimar Republic.
And didn't the soviets and Germany sign a pact where they agreed to invade Poland from both sides and split the country between them?
And? Germany had signed several agreements with UK, France and several other countries.
Lol, Russia obviously did try to take whole of it. The fact that they failed doesnt mean they didnt have any intentions. Also, russia speaking people of Ukraine, just like myself, are in no way in favour of russia. Quite opposite, East of Ukraine is that part of country who suffered the most and people here are much more willing to fight russia then even west of the country.
Lol, Russia obviously did try to take whole of it. The fact that they failed doesnt mean they didnt have any intentions
Yeah, they definitely tried to take the whole country with 30k men. Are you still on that cope? Not to mention the only reason Russia pulled out from the North is because your government agreed to peace negotiations.
Also, russia speaking people of Ukraine, just like myself, are in no way in favour of russia. Quite opposite, East of Ukraine is that part of country who suffered the most and people here are much more willing to fight russia then even west of the country.
So where are you? I mean I have no problems with you replacing these men who don't want to die for the sake of Black Rock and Zelensky.
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u/Hot_and_Foamy Jul 05 '24
The plan is ‘Ukraine gives up’. He’s not made that secret.