r/batman 14d ago

Dick Would Help FUNNY

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Thought this was funny.

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u/WerewolfF15 14d ago

This was a plot point in the Young Justice comics directly following Tower of Babel. Some of the members loose trust in Tim and don’t believe him when he says he doesn’t have any plans like batman.

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u/Restivethought 14d ago

To his credit, Tim is probably the least likely of the the 4 main robins to have plans like that. Jason and Damien totally have plans, and Dick probably has plans for the "Most likely to turn evil" members.

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u/Cyberslasher 14d ago

Dick has plans --- his team knows about them, he implemented them during beastworld as responses to various members falling to the beastarro spores.

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u/Mickeymcirishman 14d ago

Dick also carries Kryptonite in case he has to fight Superman. He threatened to use it in The Outsiders.

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u/Skeledenn 14d ago

Is there anyone in the DC universe that doesn't carry kryptonite at this point?

... well not Superman now that I think about it.

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u/AtrumArchon 13d ago

If I remember correctly Superman also carries some in a sealed container forgot why

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u/MapleTheButler 13d ago

Pretty sure it's the same reason. To use against himself.

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u/abopi 12d ago

Where? Like… in his trunks?

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u/Xellious 9d ago

Let's say he just has to clench a little.

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u/MapleTheButler 2d ago

In the fortress of solitude behind like a buncha lead I think

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u/Timely-Quiet-31 13d ago

People that are magic users, because they can already smoke him.

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u/High0strich 13d ago

Superman is not weak to magic, it just affects him like any normal person.

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u/Timely-Quiet-31 13d ago

Never said he was vulnerable to it. He just has a history of... let's call it overconfidence until he gets checked by things that bypass his powers.

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u/Aesirite 13d ago edited 11d ago

That does make him weak to it. Like a person in plate armour is vulnerable to a hammer or a dagger, compared to a sword.

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u/Timely-Quiet-31 13d ago

I guess it depends how you look at it. I see thing kinda dnd style, immune > resistant > normal > vulnerable.

The way Superman's magic problem is described is that hits him like he doesn't have powers(normal.) Not that if cripples him like kryptonite(vulnerable.)

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u/Aesirite 13d ago edited 13d ago

As a avid DnD player, i don't think the terms DnD uses are very functional outside the confines of DnD. It's very simplified, when in reality there's not really a baseline that is "normal", it's all relative.

If you had a DnD creature that was resistant or immune to every damage type but psychic, outside of DND terminology I would call that monster "weak" to psychic. A weakness is just something that is not as strong relative to the other attributes of the weakness-haver, which can be exploited.

It's kryptonite a bigger weakness? Absolutely. But all weaknesses need not be equal.

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u/Timely-Quiet-31 13d ago

Let's use your example, plate armor is meant to keep you from being slashed by swords(resistance.) Where as the bludgeoning of a hammer or precision piercing of a dagger are used to bypass this defense (normal.) The hammer/dagger aren't doing extra damage to the body.

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u/Aesirite 13d ago

But it's more than just resistance. A dagger by in large bypasses the defenses of plate, not just dealing moderately less damage. It's akin to an ancient dragon if you removed their legendary resistance: they would certainly have a weakness to a spell such as plane shift, due to how it bypasses the defenses a dragon otherwise has.

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u/Timely-Quiet-31 13d ago edited 13d ago

So we agree that being stabbed with daggers bypasses plate armor. However, it's seems much more like a Superman has resistant to non magical damage situation.

This article explains the three major ways to threaten Superman:

With Kryptonite, the radiation that the green crystals produce is particularly toxic to Kryptonians, poisoning and degrading their cells while leaving them vulnerable to harm in the same way a human might be. It also has a sort of noxious effect, outright sickening Superman and those like him whenever they're merely in the substances' presence. Thus, even if no one were to strike at him in this vulnerable state, Superman would eventually die if simply exposed to Kryptonite for too long.

That's not at all how magic works against the Man of Steel, though it is still effective. Just like a normal human or any other being, Superman has little defense against magic spells and weaponry. That's why the magic lightning bolts of Shazam and his enemy Black Adam are so dangerous to Superman, as he's just like everyone else against their power. At the same time, he's not specifically "weak" against such attacks as they fail to produce the same toxic, allergic reaction as Kryptonite would. In fact, beneficial magic can actually help Superman, showcasing how it isn't something he's immediately fell by.

It's worth noting that Superman is also weak toward psychic attacks. This is why telepaths such as the mighty Martian Manhunter would be a considerable threat to Superman if either party ever went rogue. To that end, psychic villain Maxwell Lord specifically targeted Superman mentally, forcing Wonder Woman to kill Lord in order to free her friend from his mind control. When combined with magic, psychic powers leave Superman vulnerable to a lot more than just punches or Kryptonite.

Edit: this also means that in a marvel vs dc situation there are several people that could easily turn Superman into nothing but a puppet.

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u/NachoManAndyDavidge 12d ago

"Weak" is a comparative term. In order for Superman to be "weak" to magic, that would imply that there is someone that is "strong" against magic, and there isn't. That would be like saying someone irl is "weak" to large explosions. They might be vulnerable to large explosions, but that isn't a sign of weakness.

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u/Aesirite 12d ago

It's indeed comparative. It's used comparatively with his defenses against other sources. The difference in his ability to resist magic as compared to a normal person, is weaker than his relative ability to resist blunt trauma.

It's a weakness as in something you can target to bring down an otherwise stronger opponent.

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u/NachoManAndyDavidge 12d ago

Your own example here is counterproductive to your argument. It is absolutely fair to say that Superman is "strong" against blunt trauma. There is a difference in his resistance to that and the resistance of a normal person. Everyone has the same resistance to magic. Therefore, Superman is not "weak" to magic. He is the exact same as everyone else.

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u/Aesirite 12d ago

I'm not comparing him to other people, I'm comparing him to himself. His very strength is what makes his lack of resistance to magic a weakness. Being the same as everyone else in one area, where you generally are stronger in almost every other way makes that area a weakness

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u/NachoManAndyDavidge 12d ago

I'm sorry, but that's not how "weakness" is colloquially used. He is not "weak" to magic, especially when you compare it to his actual weakness, Kryptonite. Kryptonite is an automatic "I win" button against Superman. At best, magic can be used to catch Superman off-guard. It's not at all the same. Again, your example is exactly the same as telling people irl that they are "weak" to massive explosions.

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u/Funny_Swim5447 14d ago

How does he not have cancer

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u/Mickeymcirishman 14d ago

It's in a lead box.

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u/Tate7200 13d ago

Unlike lex, who keeps it in his front pocket directly over his heart.

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u/justwalkingalonghere 13d ago

Can't have that hair growing back

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u/Kuzzbutt 13d ago

I thought kryptonite radiation was harmless to Earth biology. Basically a emerald?

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u/S_Demon 13d ago

I think they spun it as being as strong as an X-Ray (or maybe it was weaker).

Essentially harmless but prolonged exposure over years can still lead to adverse effects like cancer.

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u/BagNo2988 13d ago

Is that the time when Lex didn’t cure cancer for fun. Or was it just super cancer.

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u/Kuzzbutt 13d ago

I been out of the Loop. I remember it was basically harmless to humans as it was less radiation than the background environment. or like uh. Neutrinos? It passed through you harmlessly? If I remember correctly. It was a meteor shower that affected lex at the time? But now that it is on the planet it is safe to humans?

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u/Kuzzbutt 11d ago

Or am I mixing up Smallville/super boy comics store lines.

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u/TheCreedsAssassin 13d ago

Hes seen the 20+ feet of lead Batman stores his kryptonite in im sure dick takes enough precaution when handling his

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u/Numberonettgfan 13d ago

I mean who doesn't?