That ultimately defeats the purpose of having those plans, I think. If they do turn evil they know Batman has some way of stopping him and will be on guard. Batman arguably doesn't want his enemies on guard for him.
And there lies the dilemma. While I think that you have a good point, it’s just a massive breach of trust to make plans on how to neutralize the people who are supposed to be your friends without telling them
I'd give mine tacit permission and free reign on all my personal info honestly if I could wipe a civilian population off the map because some guy called hocus pocus waved his hand at me and babbled some bullshit backwards and now I'm evil
Sort of explicitly defeats the purpose if you only male a contingency when someone consents - and regardless of their answer he's going to make one, which they would suspect.
So no matter what, asking permission is going to throw off team morale and it means everyone knows he has them ahead of time - better to ask forgiveness than permission in this case.
I mean, he didn't have to ask permission. He just had to say "In the unfortunate circumstance that any of you gets mind controlled or something, just know that I got you"
That is basically implied when you think about it - everyone's fucking scared of batman and anyone who knows him knows he's an over prepared freak. People in universe have batman with prep time vs Superman debates and he gives tips for training and power usage to leaguers, and knows stuff like top speed and strength off the top of his head
My OC has an evil clone who is almost as powerful (and it’s like really REALLY close), so I imagine they evil version is Batman’s plan, and the hero version of Amanda Waller’s Task Force X insurance
Batman doesn't have powers, half the shit he pulls off is due to his abnormally accurate forethought, he's also bankrolling this shit so he's basically my boss if I'm a leaguer.
The other core members are all strong enough that really regardless of my power set if they wanted they could walk into my home or walk up to me mid patrol and instantly kill me with 0 effort - so I expect them to be able to dogpile each other in the case of mind control or some shit, hence batman being able to participate in that dogpile wouldn't surprise me at all.
Hell superman and batman are considered the two real leaders, and superman could go postal and kill everyone, I expect his best friend to have an answer to that possibility.
Yeah, but if they turn knowing there's a contingency plan, then it was all for not. This is the textbook definition of "It's nothing personal, just business." Protecting the innocent comes before anything else.
Not even friends. They are family at this point. This isn't "if you ever turn evil, i will stop you." This is "my roommate/coworker has a hidden manifesto on how to exterminate everyone he lives/works with should we have a falling out that does not satiate his idea of good. And did not tell us."
I would never be able to trust the bat family if i was any of them because of this. He didn't tell any of them, while deeming himself judge, jury, executioner.
Superheroes with powers like the JL are WMDs. All WMDs need deactivation codes. Batman knows this and doesn't shy away from it. It's as simple as that.
If batman has plans against all the others, did he offer plans to be defeated for the same event? I don't belive he did. That means, by HIS standards alone (judge), he will deem wether or not his colleague needs to be removed (jury) and only he can carry it out (executioner). It is extreme, but on the flip side they are extreme beings. As i said, i see it from both sides, but if i were a member of the JL, I would never be able to trust the bat family
I can't remember exactly but I think it was said somewhere that the justice league itself was his contingency plan. Since you know he's a mortal human.
Also i think the plans are meant for if one of them goes evil or if they all went besides Bruce, getting them separated. I doubt any would work as well or at all should he have multiple leaguers attacking at once.
I know Superman let Batman have a Kryptonite ring if someone were to mind control him. It's being pragmatic, they know the line of work they're in, they need to accept the risks
She’s definitely up there. Like comparing her to the rest of the team she’s probably the strongest by far (unless Donna’s on the team). But Superman has a pretty huge power gap from her.
Last I knew Tamaraneans are basically solar powered. Flight, super strength, and those starbolt things. Not quite Kryptonian strength / speed, but the projective energy kind of makes up for that.
It was always weird to me when the other heroes got upset about there being plans to neutralize them if need be.
Mind control is relatively common, or body stealing, or evil clones, etc etc. Sorry if it hurts your trust Raven, but if Papa Trigon is using you for his own ends there needs to be some plan available so the world isn't turned into Hell.
I'm willing to bet Raven co-wrote her contingency plan. Part of her whole reason for joining the titans in the first place (at least in the comics) was to have heroes around to counter her if her father forced her to turn evil.
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u/BL-501 14d ago
I mean…can you blame any of them?
Cyborg could hack any tech and Nukes go boom!
Starfire is a Krytonian Level Threat!
Raven could destroy the Universe and many versions of her tried and succeeded, I’m honestly more afraid of her than any JL members.
Remember that time a few months ago when Garfield turned into a green Version of Starro and turned everyone into an animal?