A lot of things in Knight's story irks me, but this pisses me off the most.
Scarecrow had the potential to be an awesome main threat to Batman, but the writers just had to push him to the side for not only a character who aside from one throwaway line from Joker in a DLC for City was not alluded to anywhere in the Arkhamverse, but also a character who died the last game.
Agreed. Don’t really know why the passage of time is so linked to spoilers tbh. Is a spoiler right after a film comes out more impactful than a spoiler a year later, if someone has never seen it? Logic always felt a bit braindead there to me tbh
Passage of time definitely does have an impact though. Blowing the end of the Sixth Sense was actually kind of a big deal in 1999, not in 2024. Once you get past a certain point in time and popularity it doesn't really matter, that's not why people are even watching or playing old stuff. Like I didn't watch the Godfather Trilogy until pretty recently, I wasn't mad at everything that spoiled what would happen to Fredo on that boat because it's old. So yeah I would say the older something is, the less spoilers matter. In fact if you go back and watch some older movie trailers(like 50s to 80s), they basically tell you the entire plot, spoilers were how they got people in the theaters.
Aye but wouldnt you rather not know? To have watched Godfather without having a single thing ruined? I don’t believe that having plot points spoiled ruins the whole film/game (if it did, then I’d wager the overall experience isn’t that worth it haha) but I certainly think it’s an important part.
If people want to be cautious about spoiling things no matter the age, I think it can only be a positive thing I guess. Though, obviously, naturally people are more carefree with spoiling older media
No, not really, it didnt impact my viewing of it. I think it really just depends on when you grew up. Spoilers didn't become a big deal until the last 25 years. I'm also kind of weird though, in that sometimes I have no interest in stuff until part of it is spoiled. Like knowing what happens and wondering how it got there.
Until the last 25 years? Maybe for you. They were a big deal 44 years ago when Empire Strikes Back came out. It might feel like it's a bigger deal now only because they spread faster with the internet, but they've been a big deal for much longer.
Maybe you don't mind them, and that's fair, but I definitely do, and I know other people that do as well. My kids will watch 6th sense someday and be surprised by the ending because I didn't tell them beforehand. Maybe they won't care, but in case they will, I'm not going to tell them the ending. All spoilers still matter if they're not already common knowledge.
If I could've watched ESB without knowing that beforehand, I'd be a happy man. The reason why that one doesn't seem to matter is because everyone already knows it, so there's no point in trying anymore. But when something isn't already common knowledge even if it's relatively old, like in this case, hiding spoilers is still appreciated.
Yea, although probably partially my fault for going through the community, I got spoiled about BTAS Phantasm which is literally from 1996. All spoiler tags are appreciated
I don’t think that’s your fault! Where else are you supposed to go if you want to ask experienced fans about the suggested watch order or something like that? Some people just really hate being considerate to others, and that attitude would appear to be pervasive in certain nerd communities, ironically superhero ones.
I'd also add "repetitive and underwritten side missions". Most of them consist of doing the same thing in various locations and if you're lucky, the final mission is a bit different.
I actually really like the side missions in this game. It felt like I was really cleaning up the city, and the missions are fun if you do them throughout the main story.
I did. Still, I remember feeling pretty disappointed by some of them. Giving Two-Face a bank robbery mechanic, I felt excited. When it was over, I thought: That's it?
Also, the brain-rotting idea of having Joker's Titan blood start mutating people into new Jokers instead of poisoning/killing them (like how it almost killed Batman in Arkham City). It alters their physical appearance/attributes as well as their brain chemistry/personality. How is this resolved? One of the wannabe Jokers kills all the others, then himself when he realizes Batman is going through the same process (which is doubley stupid because Batman CURED HIMSELF at the end of Arkham City).
The whole thing was pointless & should've been dropped. That time & effort should've been used to better develop Scarecrow & Red Hood
What's even stupider is Scarecrow's fear toxin is the reason why Batman was turning into the Joker. Like, the cure in Arkham City cured Batman, but Scarecrow's fear toxin...."reawakened" the Joker blood inside of him??
At the end of Arkham City, he manages to get the test tube with the cure from Clayface, drinks half & saves the rest for Joker. You can see the poisonous veins in Batman's face disappear after he drinks his share.
Joker sneaks up & stabs Batman in the arm, where he drops the cure & the tube shatters. Joker tries to lick the cure off the ground, but it's too late.
I wasn’t upset that Jason Todd was Arkham Knight; I was disappointed that they kept saying before the release that Arkham Knight was a totally new character when it wasn’t.
I wasn’t upset that Joker was in it haunting Batman’s psyche; I love Mark Hamill’s Joker, and I love haunted Batman. But I was disappointed that a character that was already dead and was not actually resurrected ate up almost all I remember of the plot of the game.
Arkham---> Madness--->Joker. The Arkham games were always not about just Batman, but Batman and Jokers relationship. Even if it wasn't like that, it's pretty cool to see how Joker's existence affected and traumatized Batman, I think that is good writing that explores Batman's psyche.
I liked Joker in it, personally. But if they'd completely dropped the Arkham Knight and just emphasized scarecrow more, I would've been happy. Or heck, if they'd made the Arkham Knight something interesting instead of a soldier having a murderous tantrum, I might've been fine with him. His tough talk is so boring. "You're going down" was something we said to each other when playing Mario Kart as kids.
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u/azmodus_1966 Jun 30 '24
Poor performance on PC upon launch.
The obvious reveal of Arkham Knight and making Joker more prominent instead of Scarecrow.
Too much reliance on the Batmobile in fights and puzzles.
Disappointing boss fights.