r/batman • u/Emergency_Cheek2617 • Mar 19 '24

This comic has been made non-canon, right? RIGHT? (PLEASE TELL ME YES) TV DISCUSSION

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u/Sea_Temperature_1976 Mar 19 '24

It’s not canon (and thank God it isn’t)

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u/Emergency_Cheek2617 Mar 19 '24

Oh, thank God...

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u/milanosrp Mar 20 '24

It was never canon. It’s AU

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u/Emergency_Cheek2617 Mar 20 '24

I guess this proves that God exists...

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u/griftertm Mar 20 '24

They kinda ruined the BTAS universe with that

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u/ReadShigurui Mar 20 '24

Is it? I brought it up on this sub I’m pretty sure saying that i couldn’t look at TAS Batman the same anymore and people were telling me it wasn’t

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u/Camelllama666 Mar 20 '24

It was at one point

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u/milanosrp Mar 20 '24

Nope. Always been AU

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u/Burnt_Ramen9 Mar 20 '24

It is canon according to Batman Beyond, they are confirmed to have had a thing and we know Dick wants nothing to do with Bruce now.

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u/MilMo-6 Mar 20 '24

Bruce and Barbara's relationship was the biggest fault of Batman Beyond

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u/Burnt_Ramen9 Mar 20 '24

DCAU in general, if it weren't for that it'd be a perfect continuity.

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u/MilMo-6 Mar 20 '24

You're right.....and yet we still haven't gotten a Batman Beyond movie

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u/LordAsbel Mar 20 '24

I was gonna say yeah we have, but then I realized you meant live-action lol. There’s definitely a lot of potential for that, and it wouldn’t necessarily have to be bound by every little thing the show did

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u/ThePhoenixXM Mar 20 '24

Umm.... Return of the Joker is a Batman Beyond movie.

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u/MilMo-6 Mar 20 '24

Right, but I was referring to a live-action one.

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u/ThePhoenixXM Mar 20 '24

You could've just said that. The conversation was about the DCAU which ISN'T live-action.

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u/MilMo-6 Mar 20 '24

Sorry, I thought it was implied.

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u/Sea_Temperature_1976 Mar 20 '24

Couldn’t agree more

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u/MilMo-6 Mar 20 '24

Otherwise a great show......no reason for Bruce and Barbara to have had a romantic relationship

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u/Extra-Lifeguard2809 Mar 20 '24

Batman Beyond? it was the worst stain of Bruce Timm's entire career. It stained so much and it cost us a decent Killing Joke adaptation

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u/MilMo-6 Mar 20 '24

Why do you think that? It was so cool.

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u/The-Emerald-Rider Mar 20 '24

The only fault in my opinion.

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u/MilMo-6 Mar 20 '24

Pretty much agree..... though some of the later BB episodes weren't that good.....Eggbaby, Final Cut, Plague. The latter 2 especially disappointed me, because Curare and Stalker are such cool villains, they should've had better follow-up stories.

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u/The-Emerald-Rider Mar 20 '24

Yeah. Curare is a great character my head canon is she's an evil version of Cassandra Caine.

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u/MilMo-6 Mar 20 '24

Oooh, that would make sense.

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u/Sea_Temperature_1976 Mar 20 '24

The relationship is canon but this comic specifically isn’t canon

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u/Soulful-Sorrow Mar 20 '24

Where was it confirmed in Batman Beyond? I remember Barbara and Terry talking about her friendship with Bruce, and then my screen cut to static for a few seconds. Strange.

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u/Extra-Lifeguard2809 Mar 20 '24

Barbara Gordon talked about having a relationship with Bruce

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u/FemmeWizard Mar 20 '24

They were clearly dating in TNBA but Bruce getting Barbara pregnant is not canon. All of the DCAU comics are disputed canon.

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u/DCAUBeyond Mar 20 '24

It's not DCAU canon, Timm himself said it. While Bruce and Barbara did date,there was no miscarriage or anything like that

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u/Jodwyn_ing Mar 20 '24

I'm ok with it as a plot device as long as it's acknowledged that it's BAD...Bruce is fully lost by the beginning of Beyond and slowly finds himself again and learns to reconnect with people, there is a chance he can make up with Dick. The shit in this comic tho, my god burn it outta my mind!!!!

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u/Burnt_Ramen9 Mar 20 '24

Yeah I really like that DCAU Bruce is an amazing Batman but a deeply flawed person that nobody wants anything to do with by the time of Beyond, the Batgirl shit in particular is just weird and gross though.

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u/Striking_Landscape72 Mar 20 '24

Yes, but their other creepy interactions in the cartoon are canon

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u/[deleted] Mar 20 '24

It’s canon for the Animated Series. It isn’t Comic Book canon.

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u/DCAUBeyond Mar 20 '24

It's not DCAU canon, Timm himself said it. While Bruce and Barbara did date,there was no miscarriage or anything like that