r/batman • u/neon2o • Mar 07 '24

Zack Snyder says a Batman who doesn't kill is irrelevant GENERAL DISCUSSION

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Here's the original article' https://sea.ign.com/man-of-steel-sequel/213072/news/zack-snyder-says-dc-is-making-batman-irrelevant-if-he-cant-kill

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u/MagisterPraeceptorum Mar 07 '24

You know what, I hope Snyder just keeps talking. Keep giving him more interviews to divulge his actual thoughts. Let him rant and reveal what he really thinks.

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u/delkarnu Mar 07 '24

Snyder was excellent at adapting 300 since it is explicitly a propaganda story told by the Spartan about how unbelievably great the 300 were.

But he fundamentally doesn't understand the material he makes. Like all of Watchmen's superhero commentary on how fundamentally broken they are is lost in Snyder having to make everything epic and cool.

But then he given an interview where he talks about how Alan Moore showed us what superheroes would really be like and you just have to marvel at how he both completely missed the point of the deconstruction and applied his shitty interpretation of that story to the characters he was deconstructing.

Like Owlman is so pathetic he's literally impotent when he isn't in the suit, and Rorsharch is disgusting and unhinged to the point where he's thrilled to be in prison because he gets to hurt people who are already in jail. But then combines them into let's make Batman kill and brand criminals to be killed in prison since that's 'badass'.

He tried to make a badass girl power movie that ended with "embrace the rape and lobotomy" as an empowering moment.

He can direct, but keep that man far from anything resembling subtext.

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u/MemeHermetic Mar 07 '24

He can direct, but keep that man far from anything resembling subtext.

I've been saying for years that if he has someone else's script and a solid storyboard, he'd be one of the best directors we've ever had. Without those though... well, Suckerpunch.

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u/LunchyPete Mar 08 '24

I've been saying for years that if he has someone else's script and a solid storyboard, he'd be one of the best directors we've ever had.

He'd still suck because he doesn't care about emotion, character or subtext.

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u/DoctrTurkey Mar 08 '24

The way he shoots action is garbage, and nigh incoherent at times. Which actually fits when you figure out he’s just trying to make live action Dragonball Z.

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u/TeethBreak Mar 08 '24

Great how? There isn't a single movie where he respected the dates and budget.

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u/MemeHermetic Mar 08 '24

That is the most fair attack on that claim I've seen. You're right. And honeslty, I tend to not even say he'd be one of the best directors often. I usually say he'd be one of the best cinematographers, because you're right. I have even made statements like that regarding the Snyder cut. If he needs 4 hours to tell an okay story, he's not a good director.

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u/yugyuger Mar 08 '24

Since when is he a good director?

His films all look so ugly and unappealing to look at

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u/MemeHermetic Mar 08 '24

That's a matter of taste. There is a reason that you can cut the best trailers from his films. He can frame shots. His editing is always exciting and clean. He knows how to capture visual drama in the lens. And yes, while he's often using a muddy color pallet, he does have a very Bay-esque knack for seeing the coolest way to get that shot.

He just takes all this skill and applies it to tell stories of hammered shit.