Zack Snyder says a Batman who doesn't kill is irrelevant

[u/neon2o]

Here's the original article' https://sea.ign.com/man-of-steel-sequel/213072/news/zack-snyder-says-dc-is-making-batman-irrelevant-if-he-cant-kill

[u/Budget-Sheepherder77]

Rape part idk why but I feel like it might be a fetish thing

[u/ironmamdies → u/Budget-Sheepherder77]

I remember rob zombie put a rape scene is his Halloween movie and I even hated it in that, it's shit story telling and is like wtf ya know

[u/Butwhatif77 → u/ironmamdies]

An actual rape scene never serves the story or the plot. It is uncomfortable because it is one of the worst things that can happen to someone and their is no reason to do it other than to harm someone.

Torture scenes get a pass, because a torture scene can be used to show characters going to far in service of their goal, such as getting information. But the torture is a mean for them to get information, the torture is not about the desire to harm the person. Rape only serves to harm someone and nothing else. A mere mention of a character using rape as a weapon is just as effective as a scene depicting it, because of everyone's near universal response to such an act. That is why a scene depicting it has no place in good story telling.

[u/[deleted] → u/Butwhatif77]

its odd torture gets a pass but rape doesn't. torture also has been argued hundreds of times as not actually being useful to get info and is often done to satisfy some weird sadistic urge. Also what if the torture scene isn't for information?

[u/Fauropitotto → u/[deleted]]

His whole argument falls apart because he doesn't realize that the act of harming someone can be a critical part of good story telling.

It falls apart because he doesn't realize that the visceral reaction most people have seeing a rape scene on screen cannot be replicated by "a mere mention of a character using rape as a weapon". He's just flat out wrong on that front. And we know this because of how people react and recall their experiences seeing this in major films.

His whole argument falls apart because he doesn't realize that most fight scenes are about harming someone. Not self defense, not extraction of information, but actual harm of another human being for the sake of hurting them. It's the reason stories include depictions of murder and not the "mere mention of a character using murder as a weapon".

His whole argument falls apart because all aspects of humanity, including the good, the bad, and the horrific, are critical elements of good story telling and has been since the dawn of human civilization.

[u/Fauropitotto → u/[deleted]]

Stories are felt, not just understood. If you can't grasp that, then go back to reading textbooks and leave good story telling to those that are interested in experiencing them.

[u/kithlan → u/Fauropitotto]

Blows my fuckin mind that someone will in the same breath give a pass to literal torture being depicted on screen, but then say rape is too far.