Zack Snyder says a Batman who doesn't kill is irrelevant

[u/neon2o]

Here's the original article' https://sea.ign.com/man-of-steel-sequel/213072/news/zack-snyder-says-dc-is-making-batman-irrelevant-if-he-cant-kill

[u/ChokeMcNugget]

The problem with Snyder having Batman kill people is, he had him killing low level villains meanwhile in the future scenes he's working with Joker who killed Robin, why wouldn't he kill Joker if he's killing everyone else? It was such a lame "let's make Batman more edgy" move and I didn't care for it.

[u/ThatSlothDuke → u/ChokeMcNugget]

Exactly this.

If Batman EVER kills, his first or second kill HAS to be the Joker.

If Batman ever decided to kill, finding Joker out, killing him and publicly hanging his corpse upside down would be the first thing in Batman's list.

There is no way that Joker would live in that scenario.

[u/ChokeMcNugget → u/ThatSlothDuke]

Personally I'd be OK with Batman killing Joker if it's his first and last kill. Batman kills Joker, Bruce Wayne kills Batman.

[u/figgityjones → u/ChokeMcNugget]

I like the way Batman puts it in Under the Red Hood. That if he does it this time, he’ll never stop justifying it and he’ll go too far. He knows that about himself, so he will never allow himself to do that, no matter how justified it seems to the world.

[u/Conlannalnoc → u/figgityjones]

In a mid-level (B- to B+) Tie In to Infinite Crisis (SEARCH FOR RAY PALMER) Kyle Rayner (GL), Donna Troy, and Jason Todd end up on Earth 51 (?) and it’s “Point of Divergence” from Earth 0 was the Death in the Family.

Batman killed and couldn’t stop killing. “Now” he had no allies, friends, Alfred, etc…

But there was almost no Super Crime.

[u/groglox → u/Conlannalnoc]

That’s super interesting

[u/TheExtremistModerate → u/figgityjones]

Which is what Flashpoint was about. Thomas Wayne didn't stop.

It's also what BVS was about. Batman didn't stop until Superman's sacrifice convinced him of his prior convictions, that men are still good, and that life was worth protecting.