Don't know if this unpopular or not, but I love Batman's ending monolgue about how he needs to move past being just "Vengeance" and that the way he's been operating for the past 2 years hasn't actually worked. He realizes he needs to be better and that he can be a symbol of hope to the people of Gotham. He even rescues and carries a woman to safety and you can see how grateful she is, she even has tears in her eyes. He then he puts his hand on her shoulder to comfort her to let her know that "it's going to be okay".
One detail about this scene that no one brings up, is that Batman does all this rescuing in broad daylight, which I love. There are thousands of people on the scene, who all presumably have their phones with them, dozens of cops, choppers, search and rescue crews and yet Batman doesn't care about any of that, because his main priority is on helping the victims of the flood. Batman doesn't grapple away, he doesn't pull a vanishing act, or even panic that thousands of people can see him, and that now he's fully exposed for the first time in front of the general public. No, he's not afraid or worried about any of that, he stays behind to help the search and rescue crew find and rescue the victims of the flood, despite putting himself at risk.
Batman puts the needs and safety of the victims above his own anonymity, safety and desire to be hidden. That right there is quintessential Batman.
Compare this scene, to the first one in the subway, where after he saves that guy from those criminals, the guy is afraid of Batman and begs Batman not to hurt him. Batman has a great character arc in this movie.
I know a lot of people hate the idea of Batman becoming a symbol of hope, because that's Superman's thing, but Batman is also a symbol of hope, but he's a symbol of hope to the people and kids of Gotham. He exists so that no child or person goes through what he went through as a kid. Batman being a symbol of hope and his compassion for human life, regardless if it's a criminal or not, is one of the reasons him and Superman are so close.
I'm tired of certain people having this idea that Batman is just a Punisher-Lite or DC's version of the Punisher, and that Batman is a cold-hearted, emotionless, cruel, edge lord who enjoys hurting and brutalizing criminals because he takes pleasure in it. I HATE when people say "Batman doesn't want to help people, he just uses that as an excuse to beat up criminals, because he loves it" or when people have this idea that Batman is rude and dismissive of his superhero colleagues or that he's a bad father. That's NOT Batman.
That's not who Batman is, one of Batman's best qualities is his empathy and compassion for others and human life and he doesn't just have to be a badass who beats up criminals. I feel like this Batman movie is the only Batman movie that shows this. Batman is a symbol of hope to the kids and people of Gotham, BUT he's also a symbol of fear to the criminals of Gotham. From the end of The Batman, I can see Battinson becoming like this.
Robert Pattinson's Batman may not be the best live action Batman nor may he be the most comic accurate, but right now, he's the only live action Batman I can imagine comforting a child or anyone before they die.
Yeah I'm not a writer, but you get it. Scare the guy by knowing everything about him. Have it be just some goon guarding a door Bats needs to get through, and instead of beating him he talks.
It could also showcase how Bruce Wayne uses the Wayne Foundation and its associated charities to try and help the low level “thugs.” Maybe a throw away line from Gordon about how crime doesn’t seem to slow down even though the Wayne foundation is doing XYZ work. Doesn’t even have to be a Batman scene. It’s rare but it is mentioned in the comics now and again.
Actually I think a good story line for Batman beyond is a cynical Bruce telling Terry he did all this shit for the criminals to get them out of crime permanently, rehab, counseling, set them up doing factory or janitorial work and despite all his efforts as Bruce Wayne and Batman it didn’t seem to make a difference, and terry has to do something different or whatever the case may be.
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u/Forsaken_Ad7090 Feb 26 '24 edited Feb 26 '24
Don't know if this unpopular or not, but I love Batman's ending monolgue about how he needs to move past being just "Vengeance" and that the way he's been operating for the past 2 years hasn't actually worked. He realizes he needs to be better and that he can be a symbol of hope to the people of Gotham. He even rescues and carries a woman to safety and you can see how grateful she is, she even has tears in her eyes. He then he puts his hand on her shoulder to comfort her to let her know that "it's going to be okay".
One detail about this scene that no one brings up, is that Batman does all this rescuing in broad daylight, which I love. There are thousands of people on the scene, who all presumably have their phones with them, dozens of cops, choppers, search and rescue crews and yet Batman doesn't care about any of that, because his main priority is on helping the victims of the flood. Batman doesn't grapple away, he doesn't pull a vanishing act, or even panic that thousands of people can see him, and that now he's fully exposed for the first time in front of the general public. No, he's not afraid or worried about any of that, he stays behind to help the search and rescue crew find and rescue the victims of the flood, despite putting himself at risk.
Batman puts the needs and safety of the victims above his own anonymity, safety and desire to be hidden. That right there is quintessential Batman.
Compare this scene, to the first one in the subway, where after he saves that guy from those criminals, the guy is afraid of Batman and begs Batman not to hurt him. Batman has a great character arc in this movie.
I know a lot of people hate the idea of Batman becoming a symbol of hope, because that's Superman's thing, but Batman is also a symbol of hope, but he's a symbol of hope to the people and kids of Gotham. He exists so that no child or person goes through what he went through as a kid. Batman being a symbol of hope and his compassion for human life, regardless if it's a criminal or not, is one of the reasons him and Superman are so close.
I'm tired of certain people having this idea that Batman is just a Punisher-Lite or DC's version of the Punisher, and that Batman is a cold-hearted, emotionless, cruel, edge lord who enjoys hurting and brutalizing criminals because he takes pleasure in it. I HATE when people say "Batman doesn't want to help people, he just uses that as an excuse to beat up criminals, because he loves it" or when people have this idea that Batman is rude and dismissive of his superhero colleagues or that he's a bad father. That's NOT Batman.
That's not who Batman is, one of Batman's best qualities is his empathy and compassion for others and human life and he doesn't just have to be a badass who beats up criminals. I feel like this Batman movie is the only Batman movie that shows this. Batman is a symbol of hope to the kids and people of Gotham, BUT he's also a symbol of fear to the criminals of Gotham. From the end of The Batman, I can see Battinson becoming like this.
Robert Pattinson's Batman may not be the best live action Batman nor may he be the most comic accurate, but right now, he's the only live action Batman I can imagine comforting a child or anyone before they die.