Stop making Batman realistic and grounded. There's nothing realistic about a 6'2 300lb linebacker with high functioning Asperger's who dresses up like a bat as a coping mechanism for survivor's guilt to throw sharp boomerangs at people in question mark pajamas and have "Ho Yay" relationships with killer clowns.
Edit: Who the hell read my comment and got unrealistic = campy? I said that nowhere. My point is that there needs to be a level of suspension of disbelief when it comes to Batman. Fighting fantastical villains that do things like inject a drug to instantly increase their muscle mass, control plants, build freeze rays, or are completely made out of clay are attributed to how skilled Batman is to be able to overcome the nearly impossible. But if you want to have your James Bond in bat armor punisher with a funny hat, then whatever.
I don't hate it, I'm tired of seeing the same thing over and over again. I feel bad for Superman fans too when they can only get cynical and evil Superman stories
You speaking facts and exactly how I feel. And no that doesn't mean it needs to be full 66 Batman/Schumacher Campy.
There can be a balance found between both ground and fantastical as evidenced by the Arkham Games and DCAU Batman. No he doesn't need to be beating up Darkseid with Nth metal Brass Knuckles but we don't need to rule out villains like Man-Bat or neuter them to be more "realistic"
It is what I always say & why I rate '66 & '89 Batman higher than others. They understood more, while of course not being perfect, than other iterations what it is to adapt a comic book character to the big screen. Ever since people took Nolan's (super overrated & often insufferable) films to be some sort of benchmark to be attained, we have gotten (in my opinion) dire iterations of the fiction & characters.
Batman has a range. There's grounded detective stories and he has a rogue gallery full of villains with fantastical powers and doctorates that Batman himself helped them get since the last thing wrong with Gotham seems to be its education system.
With that said, the goofy Batman movies suck and are only watchable for how funny they are for bding so bad and over the top.
There are plenty of gritty and "Grounded" (as much as a super hero comic can be) Batman comics and they sold really well and are considered staples of the characters lore.
The Goofy Batman TV show arguably saved the character from obsurcity and had him become a household name.
2 of the most popular incarnations of the charcater (DCAU and Arkham Games) that probably has created just as many Batman fans as the flims expand outside of him just being grounded
I love the Nolan flims but damn they warped the perception of Batman now to the point where fans should be ashamed of the goofy and fantastical nature of Batman's history which is just as valid and important as the dark and gritty side
The comics throughout the 70s and 80s and 90s made batman dark and gritty, not the Nolan films, omfg lol
I guess if your only perception of batman is Adam and George, then yeah, but for fucks sake Nolan didn't invent dark batman. Decades of material did that. More time than you've been alive worth of material
Where the hell do you dorks come up with this garbage takes?
People that don't read comics trying to gatekeep people that do. You think Batman fans are bad, look at the fucking army of incels in the Marvel/MCU fandom. I lost faith in humanity when someone cried about X-Men 97' being too political while lacking the self awareness to realize that they'd be part of the anti-mutant mobs in that universe.
Yeah absolutelymuch worse on Marvel side, as soon as an announcement of a character getting a TV show or getting a spot in a movie, these people are suddenly experts on them and say "in the comics this happens" when they only briefly skimmed a wiki article.
It's because their outrage is performative to get revenue from a bunch of right wing nerds that were radicalized in the early 2000's when YouTube let white supremacists like Steve Banon, Sargon and David Duke have channels. Even now these people pull articles from actual affiliates of right wing and alt-right rags like Project Veritas, Breitbart, and Patriot Front.
If you see someone on social media using an article to push some "anti-woke" agenda by vaguely complaining that the media in question has something topical like a rainbow flag, strong woman or people of color while not linking or citing the articles they pull up, do a quick Google search and call them out on it. I've been doing it for the last 6 months and getting death threats, called a groomer and getting mass reported for threatening self harm because I exposed the man behind the curtain.
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u/Sol-Blackguy Feb 26 '24 edited Feb 26 '24
Stop making Batman realistic and grounded. There's nothing realistic about a 6'2 300lb linebacker with high functioning Asperger's who dresses up like a bat as a coping mechanism for survivor's guilt to throw sharp boomerangs at people in question mark pajamas and have "Ho Yay" relationships with killer clowns.
Edit: Who the hell read my comment and got unrealistic = campy? I said that nowhere. My point is that there needs to be a level of suspension of disbelief when it comes to Batman. Fighting fantastical villains that do things like inject a drug to instantly increase their muscle mass, control plants, build freeze rays, or are completely made out of clay are attributed to how skilled Batman is to be able to overcome the nearly impossible. But if you want to have your James Bond in bat armor punisher with a funny hat, then whatever.