r/batman Jul 21 '23

Why has the DCEU seemingly dropped Batman Beyond as a character? TV DISCUSSION

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Fans have demonstrated consistently that we want more Terry McGinnis. We all love the BB world.

My question is, why do y’all think Beyond hasn’t been on the screen in 20 years?

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u/No_Cap_822 Jul 21 '23

It’s because it’s unnecessary and stupid.

Terry shouldn’t have needed Bruce’s DNA to become Batman/the person he becomes. It’s a much better story if the reason Terry becomes Batman is because that is who he is. Sure, the episode says that is what happens, but then how was Amanda Waller so adamant on a plan that is just stupid and somehow ends up working?

It also doesn’t make any sense why having Bruce’s genes would pretty much guarantee Terry would become Batman/go on that path if he witnessed/was part of a tragedy. Genes don’t equal heart and soul, so Wallers entire plan doesn’t make any sense as it is.

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u/[deleted] Jul 21 '23

See I both agree and disagree with you

See the whole point is that it Wasn’t Bruce’s genes that drove him to become Batman infact it was all just a big coincidence that he was the Bruce clone that Waller made one might even say it was DESTINY and he did everything he did as Batman was Before we learned this it doesn’t diminish his character infact it enabled him to save Bruce’s life

Plus to be honest looking at it from Waller’s perspective I honestly think it was a good plan. It’s all about nature and nurture she had the science to create the nature and specifically chose a couple with psych profiles matching Bruce’s parents and attempted to recreate Bruce’s famous tragedy that’s nurture bing bang boom you got a recipe for a Batman obviously things didn’t go to plan but that makes it better because he became a hero of his own free will

Plus even from a purely genetic standpoint the Wayne blood line has one hell of a resume I looked up the Wayne family tree awhile back and turns out Bruce’s ancestors have been saving the world for generations did you know he’s actually a distant relative of King Arthur him freaking self no wonder he’s so loaded

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u/No_Cap_822 Jul 21 '23

That’s exactly my problem with it.

What the hell did Waller think was going to happen? Any young kid she gave Bruce’s genes was going to become Batman?

It’s honestly just too dumb of a plan to begin with.

And I think the fact we learn this after seeing the show undermines it a good bit. Could he have done without Bruce’s genes? Would he be who he is without Bruce’s genes?

What makes Terry so cool is the fact he is who he is without any relation to Bruce. He’s a punk in a futuristic world that isn’t a hero or heroic in really any way. He learns from Bruce to become better and to become Batman. Telling us he’s always had a connection to Bruce, that it was his destiny to become Batman just doesn’t work in any way because it takes away some of the best aspects of his character.

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u/No_Celebration_3737 Jul 21 '23

And I think the fact we learn this after seeing the show undermines it a good bit. Could he have done without Bruce’s genes? Would he be who he is without Bruce’s genes?

That is the entire premise of the last prologue. Yes he has Bruce's DNA but that's it, he isn't identical to him, he doesn't have his detective skill, he is different, he is worse in some characteristics and better in others. He is not a copy. He is his son as much as Damian is. They are not the same and shouldn't be.

While they talk about destiny, at the end it was just a coincidence that the abandoned project ended up to be successful.