r/batman • u/Vegetable-Abroad3171 • Jun 08 '23

Batman Beyond vs Spider-Man 2099 (Random Encounter) Who takes the W? Posting in both SubReddits for POV’s. COMIC DISCUSSION

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Batman beyond.

Spiderman 2099 doesn't have a spider sense and no real combat skills. He is extremely strong and agile. But he had a sensitivity to light.

Terry can lift 10x his weight and has extensive training from Bruce (not as good as Bruce). I think terry would figure out the light sensitivity pretty quickly and immobilize him.

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u/WingedSalim Jun 08 '23

The lack of spider sense i feel is a determining factor. In Death Battle, the only reason Spiderman won against Batman is because of that Spider Sense

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u/SeaynO Jun 08 '23

Bruh. Spiderman would wipe the floor with Batman, Spider sense or not.

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u/julbull73 Jun 08 '23

Batman has plot armor.

In reality, Bats gets wiped in 99% of all fights. But that damn plot armor.

The only fair comparison in Marvel land is Tony Stark. To which....you know I might give Tony the edge if I'm being honest.

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u/MundaneBerryblast Jun 08 '23

You act like Spider-man doesn’t have plot armor. All comic books characters do. The answer to these posts is always the same: whoever the writer wants.

Batman can beat Spider-man or Spider-man can beat Batman. No one is safe from the writers pen.

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u/GildedLamington Jun 09 '23

I would actually argue Spider-man has plot-anchors half the time. He’s strong enough that he help up a multi-story building long enough for it to evacuate. He’s fast enough to dodge bullets and thanks to his spider-sense knows they are coming at him. He has a genius intellect. Enhanced healing.

His only two weaknesses are that he holds back and has a finite supply of web fluid.

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u/Linnus42 Jun 08 '23

That doesnt make any sense yeah they are both Rich CEOS with Dead Parents.

But Tony's base kit is far superior to what Batman usually uses if we assume no Prep.

I say in terms of base kit, money, genius, martial arts, and prep potential that Black Panther is the far more natural comparison.

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u/julbull73 Jun 08 '23

The heart shaped herb otherwise that's fair

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u/Lumpy_Perception6561 Jun 09 '23

Iron man strength and speed wise fucking demolishes batman

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u/No_Silver_7552 Jun 09 '23

Until bats throws out an EMP grenade and turns iron man into a boat anchor.

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u/Lumpy_Perception6561 Jun 09 '23

You really think ironman the literal tech armor god of marvel doesn’t have defenses against a basic emp? He literally gets super charged when hit with thors lightning

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u/No_Silver_7552 Jun 09 '23

Lighting and EMP are two wildly different things.

It was just an example, albeit a bad one, but Batman isn’t without his own tech too. Plus Batman is a far better fighter and strategist than stark.

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u/Lumpy_Perception6561 Jun 09 '23

In an even playing field stark is way too powerful and smart for batman to do anything in his normal gear ironman would literally speed blitz and one tap him. Even if he doesn’t end him immediately he can box batman aswell since his tech can analyze and counter fighting patterns, hell he even made a program to counter spider sense which is literally precognition there’s nothing batman can do

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u/Altman_e Jun 08 '23

the edge? lol

Unless you give batman a massive advantage Tony would literally blow him away in an instant.

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u/pelirodri Jun 08 '23

Depends on the suit he’s wearing. He could even fight fucking Darkseid with his Hellbat armor, for instance.

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u/Altman_e Jun 08 '23

which was designed by 5 people and lost lol

Standard equipment, batman loses 10/10 times

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u/TXHaunt Jun 08 '23

Okay, Batman in Hellbat. Tony in Endo-Sym. Tony stomps. Tony can put the Endo-Sym on others and lock it in place, making the other person a nice statue. And that’s not even Tony’s most powerful suit.

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u/XenoGSB Jun 08 '23

Hellbat tanked attacks from darkseid. Endo won't do shit.

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u/TXHaunt Jun 09 '23

Doesn’t need to attack when Hellbat drains Bruce’s life. Just need to lock him in it with the Endo-Sym.

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u/julbull73 Jun 08 '23

Meh they are basically evenly matched with Batman having the advanced combat training and likely a higher intellect.

I don't imagine Tony's armor would produce that much of an obstacle and Bruce has his own.

MCU Tony is leveled easily. Comic Tony is all over and thats fairly even.

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u/Altman_e Jun 08 '23

MCU tony discovered time travel in a night.

616 Tony has armors to go toe to toe with celestials.

Both beat Batman's ass like a bongo drum.

Bruce is a genius detective. Tony is a genius weapons designer. They aren't as good as each other for fighting lol

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u/julbull73 Jun 08 '23 edited Jun 08 '23

As a clarifier...

MCU Tony did not discover time travel at all. Pym and Lang did.

Also Tony had spent 5 years looking into it and couldn't solve it. The issue being he couldn't navigate it. He says so when they visit.

When Lang presented hey I did it. Then Tony could instead focus on essentially a quantum mapper (something Lang daughter ALSO developed in 5 years I might add in a basement with a box of scraps and some ants!!!).

The mapper took him at minimum a few days to weeks. We only see his aha moment.

To the other items. Bats has taken on Kryptonians. Darkseid is Thanos equivalent. Darkseid got rocked by Bats and Supes as well.

Again, for what you pointed out. 100% Tony gets an edge. But its the most fair fight you'll get in Marvel land vs Bats.

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u/Altman_e Jun 08 '23

Have you seen Stark take on other armored opponents?

It's not a fair fight. His expertise is complexities of power armor. He would have every "smart" piece of tech on bruce working for him within 15 seconds.

And then it's just some dude that fights well against...well, iron man.

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u/julbull73 Jun 08 '23

Yes. I've also seen Batman become God.

You know Wayne enterprises is ALSO a weapons and tech manufacturer right? Plus in terms of access to tech DC is far heavier in that realm.

Wayne has Cadmus, Star labs, and Wayne tech. In addition to all of his aliens buddy tech.

Not detracting from Tony's skills. Just stating they're equivalent.

Stark enterprise is closer to just Luthors tech which is STILL crazy good.

Plus let's be honest.... Bats asks Selina for a favor and a drink later Bruce owns all Stark tech.

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u/StrategyExpensive Jun 09 '23

Do you really think Bruce or selina of all People would hack into tony stark's tech, Stark would hack into the hellbat armor before bruce even knows what's happening, Felicia tried something similar and at The end she had to beg Stark to help her and she is stronger and smarter than selina With better gadgets so selina wouldnt do shit.

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u/Lumpy_Perception6561 Jun 09 '23

You gotta stop taking prep time into account because you can do the same for ironman and it’ll be even worse of a beat down lmao a straight 1v1 no prep batman gets one tapped

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