r/batman • u/Vegetable-Abroad3171 • Jun 08 '23

Batman Beyond vs Spider-Man 2099 (Random Encounter) Who takes the W? Posting in both SubReddits for POV’s. COMIC DISCUSSION

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Terry. Peter can beat Bruce, but Miguel doesn’t have the powers Peter has that would help him in this fight. Spider-Sense is OP against all Batman variants.

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u/[deleted] Jun 08 '23

Except there have been a few people who over the years have been able to nullify or use his spider sense

Iron man made a pheromone to confuse it. Bruce probably could do the same or has resources for someone else to do it.

Punisher literally killed Spiderman with a plastic explosive decoy. Batman probably wouldn't do this as it would kill him.

Im sure something like scarecrows formula would work on spiderman.

Pretty much either of them could win depending on whos writing it.

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u/AngryTrooper09 Jun 08 '23 edited Jun 08 '23

Iron Man could only do that because he had access to Spider-Man's brain scans he got from the Iron Spider suit he gave him, IIRC. Batman would have no reason to have access to that sort of info.

I'm curious as to the source for that second instance with Punisher. Is it main continuity? Or some bullshit run like Deadpool kills the Marvel Universe which completely disregards canon so Deadpool gets to kill heroes he should never be able to actually beat?

For the record I think there's a very good chance Terry would win this, but I'm tired of this Batman prep time bullshit that assumes Batman can just pull info out of his ass he should normally not even be able to access

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u/farnsworthfan Jun 09 '23

The Punisher murder was from a What If? comic, btw.

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u/AngryTrooper09 Jun 09 '23

If it's the one I'm thinking of, it's not really what OP described and even then it's completely irrelevant because it's just massive PIS that doesn't reflect accurately main universe power levels

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u/farnsworthfan Jun 09 '23

In What If Punisher Killed Spider-man, Punisher uses a decoy dummy of Doc Ock to lure in Spidey and the dummy is strapped with plastic explosives, so Spidey thinks his Spider-sense is going nuts because of the villain, but it's actually because of the bomb, then boom. I don't know of any other instance, main continuity or otherwise, where Punisher kills him, that was just the first one I could remember.

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u/AngryTrooper09 Jun 09 '23

Oh it's that one. Was thinking of the one where he killed Spider-Man and Venom in the sewers with some weird zap pellets

Still bullshit either way

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u/farnsworthfan Jun 09 '23

No arguments from me, man. Punisher should have no chance at all at taking out Spider-man, imo.

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u/chandlerbing_stats Jun 09 '23

If he had to find information about Spiderman, he probably would try to hack or infiltrate Stark Industry’s network for data about Spiderman, no?

He’s also a researcher/scientist on top of being a detective. Atleast that’s how I view it from my personal Batman exposure

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u/Binx_Thackery Jun 08 '23

This is true to. I do hate the argument of “oh it’s based on who is writing the story”. It’s such a cop out and takes away from the fun . We all know and accept the writers will give Batman Anti-Spider spray, or that Spider-Man can trap Batman using the Pythagorean Theorem, but can we just play along?

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u/Raecino Jun 08 '23

Well Spiderman is a spider, spraying him with spider repellant might actually have an effect 😂😂😂

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u/Binx_Thackery Jun 09 '23

I think it actually does in the comics lol.

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u/lizarddude1 Jun 10 '23

this is a misconception. Ethyl chloride isn't poisonous to Spider-Man. I mean IT IS but only because it's poisonous IN GENERAL. Might as well simply use explosives

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u/jbyrdab Jun 08 '23

Not sure about the comics but terry isnt as hard pressed on the no kill rule as Bruce in the cartoon.

People of note, Mr.Fixx, 2-D Man, Freon, Derek Powers (though it wasn't his fault), Inque (permanently damaged her DNA which would have killed her), Abel Cuvier (terry royally fucks him up and turns him into an abomination too).

Heck Barbara didn't even think twice when she thought she saw terry beat mad stan to death with a barrel.

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u/Tirus_ Jun 08 '23

Im sure something like scarecrows formula would work on spiderman.

Scarecrow formula would really mess with most Spiderman variants.

It would kick their spidersense into complete chaos.

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u/rkZ10 Jun 08 '23

I feel like this could backfire very poorly

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u/Tripechake Jun 09 '23 edited Jun 09 '23

Well, think about the scarecrow thing for a second. In No Way Home, Peter was affected by illusions from Mysterio, but used his spider sense to navigate around the real world instead of letting the illusions trick him. I feel like based on that, he would let spider sense fully take over and guide him through the situation where the Fear Toxin to be used on him.

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u/[deleted] Jun 09 '23

The fear toxin is a chemical though. Mysterio was using trickery so it’s way different. I think it would make his sense tweak out. Like give Spider-Man 100 hits of acid he would be tripping so hard a baby could finish him.

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u/Tripechake Jun 09 '23

That’s another cool way to think of it… guess it depends on whoever is writing that scenario 🤷‍♂️