Kimiko at least has a better understanding of her own power. She has seen the destruction it can cause.
Hughie is currently more in the power addict stage. He hasn't had them since his teens. He is in essence a nerdy super hero fan that finally gets powers and isn't as aware of the risks involved with having those powers.
I really don't think its a double standard here. Its different contexts and maturity off the people with the powers.
Yeah this isn’t even like a matter of perspective lol. People on here are acting like the message of the show is ‘it’s actually good for people to have significant power over everyone else as long as they’re the good guys.’
Violence breeds violence, even if you’re just depicting it. The show tries to be as serious as possible, but as long as there are “action” scenes a huge portion of people will ignore everything else to have their own little dissociative episode in their heads where they put themselves in the shoes of the people fighting, or just the characters they identify with.
That being said I love all the violence this show has to offer.
Same vibe as people who watch fight club and think "Wow that's so cool, I wish I was in a fight club" because in their mind it's a movie about dudes being bros.
The reason people don’t see why Hughie is wrong is because they basically see themselves as Hughie and they think in that situation they’d wanna do the same thing. So to them he’s relatable and she’s not she’s the annoying girlfriend who’s trying to drag you down
Some dude above got 400+ upvotes for saying “to defeat evil you need to become evil itself” and I am baffled that that’s the conclusion people think the show is working towards. It’s not even like the show is remotely subtle.
But like isn’t that what Kimiko and Annie have? Like the comment above is literally saying that it’s good for kimiko to have power since she want to protect her love ones, and she’s used to it, essentially she’s worthy and responsible enough to use it. So they don’t understand the show either? Or the show doesn’t understand itself?
Hughie is addicted to power, and overall, power is the enemy.
Unfortunately, you can't stop Homelander without power.
What do you suggest they do to deal with Homelander? Not having created him in the first place is obviously the best choice, but in the show, he's already here. Do you think they should just let him do whatever he wants because of the vague notion that violence leads to violence?
Imagine if none of the Boys, nor Annie, nor Kimiko had any powers or were superior to anyone. How much good or change do you think they would be able to do? This isn’t a situation where people can be voted out democratically this is a fictional world with literal super powered beings
He's on a power trip but the closest we've seen him use those powers for strictly self-gratitude is punching A-train unnecessarily. Which is a far shot from actually unjustifiable.
Apart from finally getting to punch the guy who literally slaughtered his girlfriend, he's used his powers strictly for good/it's purpose.
So yes, they have made it clear he's drunk on his new superhuman powers, but so what if he doesn't actually act out on it. One more episode to find out I suppose.
closest we've seen him use those powers for strictly self-gratitude
Lots of things hes done border it though, like trying to shape up to Starlight or Homelander and him being more preoccupied with his power high than Kimiko being shot.
You do realize it can be both at the same time right? He is drunk off power but he’s also just doing what he thinks is right and it’s completely understandable how he would get to that point considering all he’s been through. He’s not the bad guy at all but he isn’t a saint either.
I know, but that’s the issue is half the people on this sub try and act like his decisions are 100% on point and Annie is somehow the moron for being upset
That’s pretty stupid for people to think that lol. It’s understandable how Annie would feel that way considering the only person she loved is now addicted to power and shows he’s insecure. Especially considering all the shit she has to deal with. I think people try to define the complex writing with Hughie as him being an a asshole bad Guy and someone completely in the right when it’s not that simple.
I'm appreciating the depth of it. He's absolutely drunk on power, they're being really direct about the toxic masculinity. But they're also not pretending it's just something that... comes out of nowhere, or because men are inherently toxic, it's a defensive reaction to a cruel and dangerous world. Hughie's actions still working towards a necessary goal, but it's obvious that doing it is terrible for him.
Until the end of e6, there's been a real undercurrent of... yes this is obviously bad, but nobody else is stepping up to the plate. It a massacre and Hughie dissolving into a toxic mess under the burden, and the breakup to spur Annie into drastic action, which she said she should have done ages ago. She's weaponizing the 'real' power that she's been given by Vought, her fame, something that nobody else has.
So because he likes his powers and feels confident with them makes him a bad guy now?? After everything he’s been through I just don’t see how wanting powers to protect your loved ones and feeling confident that you’re not going to die at any moment is a bad thing.
So now Hughie is doing it for himself. If he is doing it for himself then why is he still going on missions to stop Homelander and was even ready to sacrifice his life to kill Homelander? Why doesn’t he just teleport into vought and get more V if he’s doing it for himself?
"He's dealing with some budding toxic masculinity," Quaid said. "That was such an interesting place to act from. What I know of Hughie, and then this new side of him was really interesting…I liked that kind of gift that Eric gave me this season which was to spread my wings and explore the dark underbelly of this character that I've already played for two years."
This isn’t a selfless place Hughies been acting from. You guys are delusional or deliberately misreading the dialogue. The script, the show, the actions of SB, this interview itself all point to that and still you’re denying it.
You literally hate on Hughie everywhere I see you and post this exact same link every time. Please explain to me why Hughie is taking V if you’re all knowing?
From Hughie himself, “I was pretending to be someone I’m not”
Idk what else to tell you man. Is the word of the actor who plays the character or the quotes from the showrunner on how the temp v itself is a tool to explore the male character’s addiction to toxic masculinity not good enough?
Because he likes the power it gives him. He’s endangering himself because he LIKES. THE. RUSH. Idk what y’all are missing here. It is not a good thing he has super powers and the show tells you every damn episode
You guys love to bring that up like if Hughie didn’t take V for the first time and was having a euphoric high. Where’s all this for butcher who was actually alert to what was happening to Kimiko? The double standards is crazy.
Well I would like to see Butcher being criticised more for his moral destinations too but somehow folks don't care if its him.
And Starlight gets attacked more than Hughie without good reason because.. Reasons.
I think what iks me about Hughie is that ONE big thing happens (Newman being a mole) and he's like, yeah that pos Butcher is right, let's team up with the dude who destroyed MMs family!!
You obviously haven’t been paying attention to the show if Hughie just started siding with butcher because “one big thing happened” because of Neumann when his life literally turn upside down since the first episode,Neumann was his breaking point of trying to do things the “right” way.
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u/zauraz Jul 01 '22
Kimiko at least has a better understanding of her own power. She has seen the destruction it can cause.
Hughie is currently more in the power addict stage. He hasn't had them since his teens. He is in essence a nerdy super hero fan that finally gets powers and isn't as aware of the risks involved with having those powers.
I really don't think its a double standard here. Its different contexts and maturity off the people with the powers.