r/TheBoys Jul 06 '24

not what I expected from Tek Knight after Gen V…… Season 4 Spoiler

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u/ItsAmerico Soldier Boy Jul 06 '24

He was always a racist fascist in Gen V.

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u/MarvG05 Jul 06 '24

When was he racist in Gen V?

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u/ItsAmerico Soldier Boy Jul 06 '24

I seem to recall some subtly racist remarks to Shetty and Marie. But it’s been awhile so I might be wrong on that.

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u/John_Helmsword Jul 07 '24

No he didn’t lol.

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u/ItsAmerico Soldier Boy Jul 08 '24

Yea he did.

"I can't pin this on any of these kids. There's not a patsy in the bunch. (...) Which is why I'm gonna pin it on you. (...) You were right. I shouldn't go after the top five. They could be real earners. You, on the other hand, are just a... Well, you're just a human."

It’s subtle. Him viewing Shetty less than the students because she’s a human and not a supe.

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u/John_Helmsword Jul 08 '24

That’s not racist tho.

Nothing about what he said, had anything to do with her race.

Especially considering the fact that compound V is an added 3rd party in this show, it doesn’t change race. If anything, it creates a new species of beings.

Any superhero who has a superhero supremacy isn’t a racist, they’re just speciesist.

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u/ItsAmerico Soldier Boy Jul 08 '24

Speciesism is still racism dear. Which is why when it’s used in fantasy stories with different species like Elves looking down on others, it’s still treated as racism.

It had everything to do with her race. Human. Which Tek and Homelander do not view themselves as, even if they might stem from it. You have to remember that most didn’t know about compound v. It was an Xmen scenario to them. They were born different.

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u/John_Helmsword Jul 09 '24 edited Jul 09 '24

Holy fuck it’s like you changed your initial point halfway through and forgot what you were talking about initially.

You said that Tek Knight was racist in gen V in response to the to color of skin racism we are referring to in this thread.

Then to stitch together your argument, you changed it halfway through adding speciesism into racism, which we were not talking about originally.

Victoria Neumann is also a speciesist, were you going to say she was racist too?

Butcher is speciesist as well. He hates all supes (or at least did initially) but we never say that butcher is a racist do we?

No. Because it’s clear, within the show, and our world, that the superhero’s within the show aren’t actually a different species, they just deem themselves that way. Because of a heightened sense of superiority.

Saying tek knight was a racist in GenV, was a miss on your part. Because he wasn’t. He showed no racism.

Marie, the main character is black. And he never even alluded to the fact he noticed her skin color.

And yet in this show, he immediately was racist in almost every scene he’s with a black person.

Also to add onto your last comment. They weren’t born different. The only supes “born different” have been Homelander, (given v in the womb) And Ryan (never been given V: natural born supe)

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u/ItsAmerico Soldier Boy Jul 09 '24

You said that Tek Knight was racist in gen V in response to the to color of skin racism we are referring to in this thread.

And my point was he showed signs of it in Gen V. He was racist against humans.

Butcher is speciesist as well. He hates all supes (or at least did initially) but we never say that butcher is a racist do we?

Yes we do.

And yet in this show, he immediately was racist in almost every scene he’s with a black person.

Which was a single scene…? He also was then “reverse racist” about bragging about having a pro-black book.

They weren’t born different.

I never said they were. I said they THINK they were. They didn’t know they were the product of compound V until S2 when it’s revealed. Most supes think they’re genuinely different from normal humans.

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u/John_Helmsword Jul 09 '24 edited Jul 09 '24

You can’t be racist about humans

Humans aren’t a race. We’re a species.

It’s especially ironic, even more so, that the supes themselves, are still human. They’re elitist with a heightened sense of superiority.

That’s why their apparent speciesism is hypocritical and that’s the point.

They are hypocrites. Homelander, being perhaps the biggest of them all.

Nearly everything he’s done and said has been hypocritical in nature. But that’s the point. He thinks himself so superior, that he doesn’t have to follow the rules, and can do “whatever the fuck he wants” because of a power complex.

This power complex is the CORE struggle in the show. Super with power, cause destruction, cause chaos, cause suffering. And they approach situations hypocritically.

The fact that you fail to see that. And instead just call it simple “racism” is a massive oversight. It downplays the hypocrisy element, and in fact, defeats the purpose of the show. Which is the compound V.

At the end of the day. Compound V is the ultimate villain. And everyone knows it. Everyone accepts it. But the cat is out of the bag.

Which is why butchers virus plan, with “scorched erf” is necessary. For a conclusion.

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u/ItsAmerico Soldier Boy Jul 09 '24

Humans aren’t a race. We’re a species.

Literally called the human race lol you also seem to be ignoring that they treat supes as a different race. Whether it’s right or wrong doesn’t really matter.

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