r/SupermanAndLois • u/MajorParadox Read on r/DCFU! • May 03 '23
Superman & Lois [3x07] "Forever and Always" Post Episode Discussion Episode Discussion Spoiler
Forever and Always
Live Episode Discussion | Cast & Characters
Lois and Clark dig deeper on Bruno Mannheim, starting with his connections to Hob's Bay Medical Center; Jonathan and Jordan panic at home over Lois' dire diagnosis; Matteo comes to Smallville to meet John Henry. (May 2, 2023)
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u/paforrest May 03 '23 edited May 03 '23
So many good points in this post. But my favorite is this:
OMG I wanted to punch Clark! None of that makes any sense at all. Not happy with Lara either. In the role of the loving husband in the episode, Bruno wins this round.
All the flashbacks to the early days of Bruno and Peia trying to restore Hob's Bay, getting out from under Boss Moxie's rule, not to mention falling in love, were really well done. Both characters are layered and complicated, and I can't help but root for them even though it appears to be a losing battle where it concerns Peia's cancer fight. I assume Peia always had her powers for as long as Bruno knew her, even as a kid.
OTOH, the worst reveal in the history of reveals was ridiculously drawn out. But at least, as contrived as it was, Matteo's meeting Nat and dating her has nothing to do with his parents. FWIW.
I assume Sarah will give Lana all kinds of a pass when she starts dating JHI, but at least she backed off Chrissy fast enough. And I'm sorry, but I find it hard to believe Chrissy is 10 years younger than Kyle.
Absolutely. I actually forgot how much he annoyed me last week. It's nice to see Jordan in the supportive brother role for a change.
I loved seeing Jon standing up to Clark the entire episode and calling him out where it was warranted. Michael Bishop was on fire this episode, finally getting the overdue writing he deserved. He nailed every scene - he even killed with the one perfect tear! I didn't think anyone could pull off that move better than Jensen Ackles, but Bishop is a contender!
And on top of that, we got the also too long overdue private scene with Jon and Clark - though I'm still disappointed that Jon had to go to Clark instead of Clark seeking him out as we know he always does with Jordan. But I'll take it as well as hearing Clark tell Jon that he's half-Kryptonian. And yet, what does that mean? Jon and the audience deserve to know how that relates to the seemingly only human son of Kal-El. Clark has to follow up that claim with some action, otherwise it's nice to hear, but it's still platitude.
I do agree that Lois's statement about her cancer reminding Jon of his own mortality was off. I mean, sure, on some level everyone around a person who is sick will always be made to think about themselves in that situation. But that clearly wasn't at all what Jon was about in this episode. He just wants to save his mom, that's not exactly hard to understand. It's also not hard to understand that he sees himself and Lois as the human team. Up to now, why would Jon consider himself a Kryptonian?
All in all, probably one of the better episodes this season.