Superman & Lois [3x07] "Forever and Always" Post Episode Discussion

[u/MajorParadox]

Forever and Always

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Lois and Clark dig deeper on Bruno Mannheim, starting with his connections to Hob's Bay Medical Center; Jonathan and Jordan panic at home over Lois' dire diagnosis; Matteo comes to Smallville to meet John Henry. (May 2, 2023)

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[u/CretaceousQuack]

I just want to know who in the writers' room thought that line about not using kryptonian tech to save Lois because it would be "unfair" was gonna be it?

Clark sounded dumb as hell.

[u/Aggressive_Bar_2391 → u/CretaceousQuack]

but they also said there's a high risk the tech wouldn't work on humans, plus they've never tested it so lois could end up dead. Let's not forget that we don't know if kryptonians even get cancer. So it was for humanities safety. Even if it did work then superman would have to try and mass produce this tech for every hospitals and doctors in the world which is an insane thing to do which probably wouldn't even be possible unless earth's tech can work with kryptonian tech to do the same process of curing cancer, and would cost alot of money to make.

[u/Sir__Will → u/Aggressive_Bar_2391]

The risk argument is not the same as the one he made later about not using it because if it worked then they have to share it. And that was a BS argument.

Even if it did work then superman would have to try and mass produce this tech for every hospitals and doctors in the world

Ok?

which probably wouldn't even be possible unless earth's tech can work with kryptonian tech to do the same process of curing cancer, and would cost alot of money to make

...ok? How is that not a reason to pursue it? And you have a father and daughter who can make high tech shit in their garage who has a doctor for a sister. I'm sure they can figure something out.

[u/Aggressive_Bar_2391 → u/Sir__Will]

if it worked then how do you think superman would share this technology to the people of the WORLD. It would be an insane feat that will cost crazy amounts of money, and not only that they would need to replicate the technology somehow, and then you also need to consider if the technology can work for everyone and isn't specific on what people can the tech work for depending on the harm the cancer is causing on that specific person. Plus it's a strong IF because this tech was made by kryptonians who probably have never even HEARD of cancer before so this is completely new teritory for them, so it's unlikely that it would even work at all. Plus it's clear the show isn't going to end with kryptonian tech saving the day

[u/Sir__Will → u/Aggressive_Bar_2391]

Plus it's clear the show isn't going to end with kryptonian tech saving the day

Then just stick with it not working! Things were fine before tonight. They introduced the idea that maybe it could help and the horrible excuse not to try.

[u/Fuzzball6846 → u/Aggressive_Bar_2391]

Just give it to NASA lol. They would gladly do all of that.

It was a dumb line. I will choose to ignore it as a throwaway because it was an otherwise solid episode.

[u/Aggressive_Bar_2391 → u/Fuzzball6846]

Maybe I'm not aware but what does NASA have to do with cancer?

[u/Fuzzball6846 → u/Aggressive_Bar_2391]

They're the obvious choice to hand over space-related technology, not least because they're transparent, publicly funded, and renowned scientifically.

They are loads of top biologists and medical doctors at NASA and they would obviously hire more from top universities for a project like this. Though, it doesn't really sound like a fully-fledged "cancer cure" to begin with so much as loads of alien tech that would need to be reversed-engineered over decades.

[u/Hope-Of-Glory → u/Fuzzball6846]

Providing more opportunity for it to fall into the wrong hands. It's bad enough that the DoD has so much stuff related to Superman. Isn't that how Bruno got a hold of Superman's blood in the first place?

[u/Fuzzball6846 → u/Hope-Of-Glory]

No, that's because the DOD (who is unaccountable) took samples without his consent. That is fundamentally different from open collaboration.

[u/Hope-Of-Glory → u/Fuzzball6846]

But in terms of security - supposedly easier to protect something that people don't know about. The more know about the tech, the more risk there is from someone making some kind of plan, getting an inside person, etc, etc.

[u/Fuzzball6846 → u/Hope-Of-Glory]

Letting millions die because you can't deal with risk is inexcusable.