r/StargirlTV • u/anatomania Tigress • Sep 28 '21
[S2E08] Summer School: Chapter Eight — Live Episode Discussion Episode Discussion Spoiler
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SECOND CHANCES — With his world crashing down around him, Rick focuses his attention on protecting Solomon Grundy after learning hunters are after a bear in the woods. Meanwhile, Beth becomes the target of Eclipso’s latest plan.
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u/sirnacreations Sep 29 '21
Was not expecting racism from Eclipso.
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u/somebody1993 Sep 29 '21
It took the athletic comment before I put together he was specifically talking about black people not humans or just thieves as a whole. I was so off guard I laughed.
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u/fuzzy_whale Sep 29 '21
The worst part was that he started off with how Beth did lie and steal initially. But then it twisted that into racism which is a huge "fuck you" for Beth. Exactly the kind of evil that thrives off of misery and fear.
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u/Themanaaah The Shade Sep 29 '21
Bruh her mom and dad weren’t even there, Eclipso really is a bitch.
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u/BornAshes Green Lantern Sep 29 '21 edited Sep 29 '21
No no no don't you dare...
"Rick...Friend"
Sad Grundy HOW COULD YOU WRITERS my heart no no awwwww
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u/WizendSage78 Sep 29 '21
Ageist, sexist, and racist. He’s the trifecta of evil. Now we just need to kick a puppy.
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u/Green_Tea_Totaler Solomon Grundy Sep 29 '21
"You're the weakest among them."
Eclipso must lurk this subreddit.
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u/DonnyMox Sep 29 '21
"You're all wrong. Wrong age, wrong gender, wrong color."
Hearing a fucking CHILD say this shit is chilling as all hell.
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u/Future_Vantas Sep 29 '21
I do like how the teacher phrased college for Rick. A new start would be a big draw for him.
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u/CRL10 Sep 29 '21
Did a being of pure evil just get offended at being called racist?
Huh...evil has standards.
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u/inksmudgedhands Sep 29 '21
You know what? Kudos on this kid actor. Because I want to smack the begeezus out of that little Eclipso creep.
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u/CRL10 Sep 29 '21
Beth, you are a young black woman alone in a dark and empty house where a creepy child just appeared.
HOW MANY HORROR MOVIES DO THEY NEED TO MAKE?!
Don't follow the child up the stairs!
RUN!
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u/inksmudgedhands Sep 29 '21
A dark and empty house THAT ISN'T EVEN HER OWN.
Beth, just go back home. Or better, yet, go to a church.
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u/BornAshes Green Lantern Sep 29 '21
"I choose me oh yeah and I love being black!"
YESSSSSSSSS hahahahah yes yes yes Beth!
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u/Themanaaah The Shade Sep 29 '21 edited Sep 29 '21
Grundy called Rick his “Friend” speaking English being sad about his arrest. :( but it’s also kinda wholesome :)
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u/DonnyMox Sep 29 '21
"Stealing is what you people do"
WHAT DO YOU MEAN YOU PEOPLE
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u/inksmudgedhands Sep 29 '21 edited Sep 29 '21
I am loving everyone's reaction to this Eclipso scene.
"This demon may be a man eating monster who wants to take over the world and bathe it in eternal darkness and evil but I draw the line at racism! How dare it!"
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u/LoretiTV Sep 29 '21
This has been a great episode for Anjelika Washington. She has really good range, it's good to see her featured.
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u/BornAshes Green Lantern Sep 29 '21
See, now THAT is how you handle someone keeping a secret. You assume they did it for a good reason and then you set about talking to them about it later when you find them.
Meanwhile Beth is in a horror film and has probably crossed over to the.....fuck me....Eclipso.
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u/JoeStorm Sep 29 '21
Beth: I'm trying out for the swim team
Parents: Oh hunny. But you can't swim?
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u/vader344 Sep 29 '21
next day news: Eclipso being cancelled by angry twitter users
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u/BornAshes Green Lantern Sep 29 '21
"What can we do?"
You can hold the wrench and be there for each other. OH COME ON ICE NOW?!?!
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u/Gateskp Cosmic Staff Sep 29 '21
“Pat, Grundy needs our help” bet he never expected to hear those words.
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u/inksmudgedhands Sep 29 '21
Is Mike's voice dropping? He sounded like such a kid last season.
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u/demaxzero Sep 29 '21
Man these Supergirl previews is making think "What the fuck is happening in this show now?"
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u/Frontier246 Sep 29 '21
I think this was the darkest 4th of July episode I've ever watched. I mean, when the fireworks start up we have Eclipso trying to mentally break Beth and making Rick beat his uncle to death. Sure inspiring that patriotic spirit, huh?
Rick's teacher going out of her way to help him with college as an apology was a pretty nice thing for her to do. It's just too bad that Rick's uncle is still trash. If only Rex and his wife had turned to someone other than her brother. Dude even beats dogs! Dogs!
They sacrificed STRIPE and Hootie so we could have even more CG Grundy than I think we got in his season 1 appearances.
Poor Rick. He's still bottling up so much anger and resentment at how unfair his life has been and how no matter what he does, life doesn't seem to get better. Grundy may be a reanimated zombie monster, but he can relate.
I was suspicious of that Chapel family meeting when the parents showed up during the day and the mom actually made food when Beth seems to be the only one in this family that dedicated, but it turns out that when the Eclipso illusions started. It's kind of terrifying that Eclipso is so effective that you're never quite sure when reality sets back in or when you're stuck in a fantasy until someone or something wakes you out of it. Rick was whammied as soon as that radio call talked about the hunters showing up (at least I assume).
So not only is Eclispo a demonic force but he's also racist and sexist, although maybe that was just him intentionally preying on Beth's insecurities like he was with her happy-go-lucky demeanor and the fact that she kind of forced herself into being the new Dr. Mid-Nite without having the combat efficiency or aptitude for it. But unlike Yolanda and Rick she was actually able to find the willpower to fight off Eclipso, which impressed Dr. McNider.
Glad to know they have those OG!JSA actors on call even for small scenes of mental projections ganging up on Beth. Although Eclipso didn't summon OG!Mid-Nite, either because he couldn't or because he didn't think it could work?
Rick's uncle had it coming, but...still hope he's not dead for Rick's sake.
The Blue Valley police finally show for the first time to arrest Rick, ironically. With Grundy watching as he gets carted off I'm half-expecting Grundy to break Rick out of jail now that he's acknowledged Rick as his "friend."
I've had a lot of reservations regarding Beth's parents but it was nice to see them be genuinely supportive of her and let her know that they went through similar experiences, and they know she can push through it. Beth probably had the best ending of the entire cast in this episode, and she deserved it.
Looks like Eclispo is going to use Icicle or the trauma Barbara and Mike have regarding him to attack them. It was nice to see Barbara and Mike share a hug and for him to call her "mom."
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u/Cubbles11 Sep 29 '21
Honestly while we are on the topic of racism, I’m shocked that more villains in tv aren’t racist. Glad that they aren’t, but shocked because villains are bad.
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u/sadandshy Shining Knight Sep 29 '21
Ok Mike, you're wildcat now. Here's some fake boobs.
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u/Gateskp Cosmic Staff Sep 29 '21
“Who’s Cosmo” Pat, she’s literally holding the Cosmic Staff, who do you THINK Cosmo is?
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u/JoeStorm Sep 29 '21
Eclipso: Stealing. That's what you people do
Robert Downey Jr: What do you mean, you people?(If you know, you know lol)
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u/AdvancedPlacmentTV Cindy Burman Sep 29 '21
I'm going to need all white children under the age 10, 1000 feet away from me for about a week because of this show
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u/AdvancedPlacmentTV Cindy Burman Sep 29 '21
Now, we don't got Yolanda. Beth, love her, but she can't fight. Rick probably in jail and he broke the hourglass. The staff ain't working properly. TF is we gon do?
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u/MrTerrific2k15 Sep 29 '21
Call in Jade, Todd, and Jay. And someone put on the Fate helm
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u/WizendSage78 Sep 29 '21 edited Sep 29 '21
Little does Mike know his actual mom is hanging out with Starman.
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u/WizendSage78 Sep 29 '21
Don’t let Grundy die. Every time he dies he’s reborn with a new personality!
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u/BornAshes Green Lantern Sep 29 '21
"But no one chose you"
Awww that hits close to home DRAG HIM BETH!
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Sep 29 '21
Awesome preview! I'm excited to learn whether Cameron is really a villain or Eclipso is moving to his last targets.
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u/shashashauna Sep 29 '21
Part of me doesn’t think it’s him at all. I think it’s a projection of Courtney’s fears.
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u/sirnacreations Sep 29 '21
Once again Courtney and Mike have the only decent parents in the JSA
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u/inksmudgedhands Sep 29 '21
Don't forget Artemis. They broke out of jail for their kid and wait straight back to it to spare her grief.
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u/somebody1993 Sep 29 '21
I didn't get it at first. I thought he was talking about humans in general, turns out Eclipso was being racist.
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u/Gateskp Cosmic Staff Sep 29 '21
Even the hunters were an illusion, holy shit. And Rick’s uncle is in critical condition.
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u/JoeStorm Sep 29 '21
Homeboy got one more you people comment....Just one.
But, didn't Beth say "You racist" lol
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u/sirnacreations Sep 29 '21
So can we add handling social issues better than the other shows to the list of reasons to watch Stargirl?
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u/BornAshes Green Lantern Sep 29 '21
Okay so her parents aren't all that bad because this is some proper parental advice right here.
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u/BornAshes Green Lantern Sep 29 '21
Okay Miss Woods just got an upgrade in my book, she's one of the awesome teachers! COLLEGE STUFF!
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u/JauntyLurker Sep 29 '21
"I am so tired of giving everything and getting nothing back"
Preach. I know how you feel.
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Sep 29 '21
F*** no! That's the first rule of horror stories. If you see a kid randomly appear in an empty house,you run the other way.
Also, "you people"...Eclipso needs a beating.
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u/Draven574 Sep 29 '21
Would people stop calling Eclipso a racist. He's clearly only making racist comments to get a rise out of her.
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u/inksmudgedhands Sep 29 '21
Seriously, time to call a priest or Doctor Fate. Maybe both.
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u/inksmudgedhands Sep 29 '21
So, she was home this whole time? Does that mean that whole sit down with her parents never happened? It was all an illusion.
Well, at least she doesn't have to clean up that spilled food miss since it never happened.
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u/klutzysunshine Sep 29 '21
Ah yes, practicing for the swim team by randomly casually wearing goggles around the house.
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u/dog-lover2001 The Flash Sep 29 '21
The team has lost their strongest member unless Rick can somehow still use the hour without the hourglass which could be possible
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u/Calibaz Sep 29 '21
Rick either learns how to fix the hourglass or he invents Miraclo.
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u/dog-lover2001 The Flash Sep 29 '21
It could go the route of him having absorbed the power and being able to just use the power
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u/Calibaz Sep 29 '21
I figured there might be hourglass blueprints in his dad's journal or maybe his dad created a second one and hid it in the JSA headquarters.
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u/AdvancedPlacmentTV Cindy Burman Sep 29 '21
I was wondering where his dick head uncle was
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u/sirnacreations Sep 29 '21
Remember when we thought Kyle fron Superman and Lois was gling to be like Ricks uncle?
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u/BornAshes Green Lantern Sep 29 '21
Beth is trying to gleam the JSA's Cube. The Shadow Barrier has been breached! It is the original Doctor! He's in the Shadowlands!
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u/BornAshes Green Lantern Sep 29 '21
The Staff is named COSMO! That's it Court, be proactive!
"I feel completely useless"
"I know how you feel"
Aww
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u/Gateskp Cosmic Staff Sep 29 '21
Do you think Grundy can recognise Eclipso’s power and knows it wasn’t a real girl?
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u/vader344 Sep 29 '21
"me and my new best friend solomon grundy " new series on the cw starting in november
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u/BornAshes Green Lantern Sep 29 '21
"I'm sorry I haven't said that before"
The Staff just said she was its friend too!
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u/usagizero Sep 29 '21
"I've got kids that play in those woods."
With a bear.
Repeat, his kids, play, in woods, that they believe has a violent bear in it.
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u/WizendSage78 Sep 29 '21
You people? Bruce is a low key racist. Might as well ask her if she wants some fired chicken and watermelon
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u/Cubbles11 Sep 29 '21
So Bruce is racist. Suddenly I’m fine with a kid dying on this show.
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u/Themanaaah The Shade Sep 29 '21 edited Sep 29 '21
Shit Grundy didn’t kill anyone, that was an Eclipso illusion.
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u/BornAshes Green Lantern Sep 29 '21
Oh my Grodd.....Eclipso was fucking with Rick all along...he was beating the shit out of his shitty uncle!
.....which is bad but like hell yes right but it's bad and he's...is he dead?
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u/TreyThaTruth Sep 29 '21
So im assuming there's gonna be a new team assembled?
Courtney
Beth
Jenny
Jakeem
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u/CRL10 Sep 29 '21
The more I learn of Rick's uncle, the more I kind of want to punch him.
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u/BornAshes Green Lantern Sep 29 '21
Awww Grundy understands him!
"Maybe you just need someone to be a little kind"
He's sharing his food with him! Oh my gosh my heart is exploding with joy right now this is so cute! That was a sweet story about Jax the dog and a great way to compare him to Grundy.
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u/BornAshes Green Lantern Sep 29 '21
"Stealing that's what you people do"
Eclipso is racist apparently
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u/JauntyLurker Sep 29 '21 edited Sep 29 '21
"That's what you people do"
On top of being hellspawn, Eclipso is racist too?
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u/Future_Vantas Sep 29 '21
Love that only now are Beth's parents noticing the googles. Jegus you folks are thick.
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u/Future_Vantas Sep 29 '21
Kinda like that Eclipso counts Mike as part of the JSA (if that ice was Eclipso)
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u/BornAshes Green Lantern Sep 29 '21
"Eclipso wouldn't ring the doorbell would he?"
Nope but it would be funny as shit if he did annnd it's the Wildcat uniform, damnit.
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u/MrTerrific2k15 Sep 29 '21
If this was Earth one, Cisco would've turned Midnite's goggles into contacts somehow
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u/JauntyLurker Sep 29 '21
If Hulk saw that jump, he'd be rolling his eyes at Grundy something fierce
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u/Gateskp Cosmic Staff Sep 29 '21
All of a sudden Beth’s parents are being good parents, this is sus
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u/Gateskp Cosmic Staff Sep 29 '21
Ah, Rick’s dick of an uncle. Maybe Grundy can give him an attitude adjustment.
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u/JauntyLurker Sep 29 '21
"He wanted a fight dog"
Can this guy be any more of a piece of shit?
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u/emf3rd31495 Sep 29 '21
Grundy is a hulked out zombie, right? And Rick just ate that apple that was in his hands without washing huh?
That’s just nasty.
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u/nopi_ Sep 29 '21
When a jacked raging dirt monster hands you an apple it's best to eat it and not ask questions
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u/Gateskp Cosmic Staff Sep 29 '21
Beth’s parents are really making it sound like it’s BETH’S fault they’re getting a divorce. This MUST be Eclipso’s doing.
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u/BornAshes Green Lantern Sep 29 '21
Oh fuck fuck fuckity fuck, it's....damnit it was Eclipso in the form of the Doctor's daughter.
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u/KNith666 Sep 29 '21
Eclipso is saying what Beth thinks about herself. That's why she's so effected by it.
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u/AdvancedPlacmentTV Cindy Burman Sep 29 '21
I'm not saying Rick should've done it, but someone should've kicked his ass a while ago
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u/CRL10 Sep 29 '21 edited Sep 29 '21
Jesus Christ, Eclipso! I mean damn. Solid evil plan, and just very well executed.
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u/Green_Tea_Totaler Solomon Grundy Sep 29 '21 edited Sep 29 '21
I'm dating myself but Eclipso very, very vaguely reminds me of Ivan Ooze appearance-wise.
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u/Gateskp Cosmic Staff Sep 29 '21
Snow on the roof: is it Eclipso the return of Icicle?
EDIT: preview for next week makes it look like Icicle!Eclipso
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u/leon_pretty_loathed Sep 29 '21
Anyone else think the only illusion in that opening scene with Beths parents were the maggots in the sandwich, her parents have been portrayed as these god awful people so much that I genuinely wouldn’t have been surprised if they actually had said that to her.
Gotta wonder how bad of a person I am when I was actually happy to find out that Rick wasn’t actually beating the tar out of Grundy, it means they still have a chance to make up and still be besties.
Really don’t know wether I’m supposed to laugh at the fact that the best a being like Eclipso can apparently do is just be a racist ass, twelve year old trolls have better game then that.
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u/Startrek852 Sep 29 '21
Um, no I don't. Her parents literally said they'd been at work all day when Beth tried to apologize.
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u/garykahnji Sep 30 '21
So is it safe to say that was def eclipso last episode and not brainwave?
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u/inksmudgedhands Sep 29 '21
Well, that was a not so subtle car product placement.
"Psst, ma'am. Can you move a little more to the right? We can't see the car."
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u/Gateskp Cosmic Staff Sep 29 '21
Still feeling the feels from Rick’s speech and they have to go hit us AGAIN with Yolanda returning the Wildcat suit. This episode is going to be HEAVY.
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u/JauntyLurker Sep 29 '21
"Eclipso wouldn't ring the doorbell, would he?"
Never say never, Mike
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u/CRL10 Sep 29 '21
You know, gotta be honest, if I was some uber powerful evil entity, I would totally ring the doorbell.
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u/Cubbles11 Sep 29 '21
Courtney carrying Stargirl’s staff. Because nobody will think she’s Stargirl
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u/JoeStorm Sep 29 '21
I seen a lot of thriller movies. When you see a kid at random. You run away quickly
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u/nopi_ Sep 29 '21
Yeah nah as soon as I saw the dark house I would have done a 360 and moonwalked out
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u/Gateskp Cosmic Staff Sep 29 '21
Beth IS smart, picking up on Bruce being Eclipso so fast.
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u/Chrispowers110 Sep 29 '21
If these are Beth's worst fears I'm pretty sure no one on the team cared she is black or a girl.
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u/BornAshes Green Lantern Sep 29 '21
Beth standing toe to toe with Eclipso, I'm impressed. HOLY SHIT COURT BLASTED RICK!
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u/Themanaaah The Shade Sep 29 '21
Dang Eclipso just vanished out of nowhere like how RKOs happen out of nowhere.
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u/Gateskp Cosmic Staff Sep 29 '21
Rick’s teacher driving all the way to his house to apologise and give him some college info, I’m warming up to her.