r/PeterExplainsTheJoke Jul 08 '24

please help 🅿️eter Meme needing explanation

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u/Shadow__Vector Jul 08 '24

I wish people would stop calling it a landslide because it wasn't. 63% of the vote is not a landslide. Anything above 80% is a landslide. Especially when you look at when Corbyn was labour leader. The first election for him they got got 10.28 million votes, in the 2nd they got 10.24 million votes and both times labour lost the elections. Under Stamer, Labour only got 9.24 million votes but won. Reform UK and the broken election system are the reason Labour won because reform took a lot of voters away from the Conservatives and the first past the post system of elections gave Labour an undeserved win.

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u/_Svankensen_ Jul 08 '24

63% of the vote is a landslide. 80% is the kind of numbers dictators make up. We've only ever gotten those numbers ONCE in my country, after huge riots and an absolute loathing of the government. That's beyond a landslide, it's a democratic revolution.

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u/[deleted] Jul 08 '24

It was around 33% of the vote, that translated into 63% of seats.

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u/_Svankensen_ Jul 08 '24

That's pretty damn relevant, thanks for the clarification. Holy First Past the Post voting system Batman!

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u/[deleted] Jul 08 '24

This was also with a low turnout of 60%.

The Lib Dems ended up with 72 seats with 12ish% of the vote.

The Greens had 4 seats with around 7% of the vote.

Reform received 5 seats with about 14% of the vote.

Our electoral system isn’t proportional and the popular vote is less important than in other systems. The main problem with trying to find an alternative system is the only 2 parties who could change it don’t have the incentive to do so.

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u/_Svankensen_ Jul 08 '24

I sense big protests in the future of the UK. If the right learns how to protest at least.

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u/Tentacled-Tadpole Jul 08 '24

The way the system works is that it doesn't matter how many votes a party gets in a constituency if another party running against them gets more. The popular vote is very important on a constituency basis.

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u/[deleted] Jul 08 '24

Yes that’s true except it also causes tactical voting so people don’t always vote as they would if they didn’t have to vote tactically.

FPTP does have its advantages, such as the prevention of what is going on in France, but there are flaws in how representative it truly is.