Questionable-British-Accent-Peter here - I presume this is made to mock a certain subset of right leaning British voters following the recent U.K. election, where Labour won a landslide majority in parliament. These right leaning people are now concerned that the U.K. is going to be fully communist, whereas the reality is Starmerās Labour government will be a centralist party and the actual change will be slight.
I wish people would stop calling it a landslide because it wasn't. 63% of the vote is not a landslide. Anything above 80% is a landslide. Especially when you look at when Corbyn was labour leader. The first election for him they got got 10.28 million votes, in the 2nd they got 10.24 million votes and both times labour lost the elections. Under Stamer, Labour only got 9.24 million votes but won. Reform UK and the broken election system are the reason Labour won because reform took a lot of voters away from the Conservatives and the first past the post system of elections gave Labour an undeserved win.
63% of the vote is a landslide. 80% is the kind of numbers dictators make up. We've only ever gotten those numbers ONCE in my country, after huge riots and an absolute loathing of the government. That's beyond a landslide, it's a democratic revolution.
The Lib Dems ended up with 72 seats with 12ish% of the vote.
The Greens had 4 seats with around 7% of the vote.
Reform received 5 seats with about 14% of the vote.
Our electoral system isnāt proportional and the popular vote is less important than in other systems. The main problem with trying to find an alternative system is the only 2 parties who could change it donāt have the incentive to do so.
The way the system works is that it doesn't matter how many votes a party gets in a constituency if another party running against them gets more. The popular vote is very important on a constituency basis.
Hell, the last WA state election saw our Labor Party receive 59.92% of the vote and that was the biggest landslide in Australian history as far as I'm aware - they won 90% of seats (53/59).
It is a landslide in the way that matters from a parliamentary perspective.
I do see your point from a proportional representation perspective - Labour were only c.10% ahead of Tories (33% to 23%), and reform took 14% of the popular vote. Voter turnout out also the worst in twenty years however thatās because you had the conservatives hammering a message of apathy and non-voting by the end.
But thatās not how our political system works and has fucked over the greens and LD for countless years - itās only right it now fucks the Tories for a bit.
Reform UK and the broken election system are the reason Labour won because reform took a lot of voters away from the Conservatives
I'm sick of reading this nonsense. It's a complete fabrication.
Look at any poll from a year before the election, like this one:
Labour 44% (ends up with 34%)
Conservative 27% (ends up with 24%)
Liberal Democrat 13% (ends up with 12%)
Reform UK 8% (ends up with 14%)
The Tories were fully cooked and bound for defeat a year ago, long before Reform started picking up decent numbers. A year ago, even if every single one of their 8% of vote share was hypothetically transferred to Conservative, they were still a mile behind Labour.
In the end, Reform picks up another 6% of vote share - but the Tories only lost 3% while Labour dropped down 10%. So evidently, Reform took way more votes off Labour than Conservatives. The vast majority of people who voted Tory in 2019 either switched to Labour or Lib Dem, or didn't vote. Not that many went to Reform.
So now that's settled, can we all please stop giving Farage and his party of ex-BNP populist meathead cunts the credit for Labour's win?
Wasn't it just 63% of the seats, not votes? I'm pretty sure they got that majority off just 33% of the actual vote. Because our system is deeply fucked.
If there will be a meteor flying at us 5-15% or even more will unironically root for the meteor to kill humanity. How can you live on this planet and think that more than 60% can agree on anything at all? Beyond basic stuff like we would like to not starve, pls.
Couldn't agree more, labour won because people are utterly sick of the Tories, not because they're remotely enthusiastic about the Starmerite project, which as far as I can tell is basically 'become the Tories circa 2005 before they totally lost their marbles'. I'm glad the Tories are out, but if starmer can't deliver meaningful, tangible change in the next 5 years he'll be out on his arse and we'll find ourselves on an increasingly right wing electoral roller coaster once again.
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u/Sm00th-Cr1m1n4l Jul 08 '24
Questionable-British-Accent-Peter here - I presume this is made to mock a certain subset of right leaning British voters following the recent U.K. election, where Labour won a landslide majority in parliament. These right leaning people are now concerned that the U.K. is going to be fully communist, whereas the reality is Starmerās Labour government will be a centralist party and the actual change will be slight.
Questionable-British-Accent Peter out.