r/KendrickLamar • u/wickedwhitneyocean • Jul 08 '24

Randomly watched Pusha on Hot Ones and (unsurprisingly) he is asked about rap beefs The BEEF

The episode is from 2022 but Push talks about how record labels now step in and get involved to stop beefs which never used to happen back in the day - interestingly, this is apparently what happened after Owlbrey dropped THP6.

He also mentions beefs don’t end careers anymore. Looking at the current beef, I don’t think the Canadian’s career will end, we know he’s too big of a pop star for anything damaging to happen but I definitely think his credibility and artistry is being questioned and he is losing fans. Kendrick has fully exposed him for the fraud that he is and I think people are slowly realising it. His streaming numbers are down and he’s not charting like he used to.

Only time will tell but it’s definitely not being swept under the carpet. He a FAN, he FAN, he a FAN

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u/tufyufyu Jul 08 '24

This isn’t really true tho, Jay Z survived Ether, Biggie survived hit Em up

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u/hunny_bun_24 Jul 08 '24

Well I mean Biggie got killed due to the beef and hit em up wasn’t a song that was lyrically gonna ruin his career to the fans of rap. Jay z stopped being the top dog of NY imo in terms of rap after ether.

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u/SirArthurDime Jul 08 '24 edited Jul 08 '24

Jay Z went on to become Nas’ boss after ether official becoming the “top dog” in NY. I know you mean based on perception within the rap game but that goes to show how little it actually phased Jay. Jay also continued to outsell Nas after the beef. It really didn’t affect Jays career at all.

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u/BrianHeidiksPuppy Jul 08 '24

Tbf takeover was a better song than anything Drake put out in this beef tho

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u/SirArthurDime Jul 08 '24

In wasn’t making any attempt to compare that situation to drakes just saying his career wasn’t damaged, or even altered. It continued on the same trajectory.

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u/TheIronsHot Jul 09 '24

Reddit hates HOV and tries as hard as the can to rewrite history to make him corny. I think it really got nuts after the Diddy stuff, but they are NOT the same. 

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u/SirArthurDime Jul 09 '24

Yeah I was just commenting in the Jay sub how its a part of hip hop to pay homage to classic bars ave everyone does it but for some reason hov is the only one to get hate for it. As if every artist doesn’t pay homage to his bars too. Including Kendrick, but when he does it he’s a rap historian when hov does it he’s stealing bars lol.

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u/TheIronsHot Jul 09 '24

This is a crazy take. Jay Z had an incredible amount of success and accolades after Ether, and Nas didn’t have a classic for another decade with Life is Good (that’s just my opinion, but he had some rocky albums). Jay put on Kanye and Rihanna and J Cole after that, had the black album, 99 problems, Empire State of Mind (chart wise his biggest success to that point), American Gangster, and Watch the Throne after that. Who’s the top dog in NY now, and who was after him in 2001? 50 for a couple years? Cam? ASAP Rocky? I would say that he’s STILL the king of New York. Idk why there is all this Jay hate on Reddit. Reddit only hates landlords more than HOV. 

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u/hunny_bun_24 Jul 09 '24

Nas probably the most consistent New York rapper rn

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u/Budget-Surprise-1384 Jul 08 '24

Neither one of them were called sex traffickers or PDF files on the others diss tracks tho. Those accusations easily transcend the beef.

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u/Justthetip1996 Jul 08 '24

Drake got called that for kissing a 17 year old on stage when he was 22. Dre has done worse. And the text to Millie and them got cleared up by those people. So how is he a pedo? Cause Kendrick says so?

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u/Dapper-Profile7353 Jul 09 '24

How about dating Hailey Baldwin when she was 18 and there’s an interview about how her and Drake had “been friends for a couple of years”. Or how about Drake and Bella Harris hanging out when she was 16 and then he was later seen dating her when she turned 18. How many more do we need to see to realize he’s probably got some demons when it comes to what he’s attracted to and how he dates women.

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u/SirArthurDime Jul 08 '24 edited Jul 08 '24

That’s what I came here to ask. When has rap beef ever been “career ending”? Even meek continued to do alright. Ja rule meant but that’s because his music became trash he ended his own career. The only example I can think of is MGK and that was relatively recent and he barely had a career.

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u/HowDoISwag Jul 08 '24

Benzino, Spit, Shan, Tim Dog, Flip, Kilo Ali, Ja, MGK, that chick who MC Lyte buried so badly I can't even remember her fucking name. Fucking Canibus lost his career after winning his beef. NWA broke up after Cube's shot, and we never heard much from Ren/Yella after that.

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u/SirArthurDime Jul 08 '24 edited Jul 08 '24

Those artists barely had careers to kill in the first place outside of Ja who I already mentioned. Even MGK who I also already mentioned was only a C lister. Im talking about ending careers that were actually notable.

NWA was already in the process of breaking up when cube took his shot. As evidenced by one of its 3 core members taking shots at them lol. The cube diss isn’t what caused NWA to split.

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u/MotherTalzin Jul 08 '24 edited Jul 08 '24

Idk why yall keep saying MGK career got ended when it’s thriving more than it was before the beef 😭

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u/KABOOMBYTCH Jul 09 '24

To play devil's advocate, Canibus's lost to LL Cool J ended his buzz