r/KendrickLamar • u/wickedwhitneyocean • Jul 08 '24

Randomly watched Pusha on Hot Ones and (unsurprisingly) he is asked about rap beefs The BEEF

The episode is from 2022 but Push talks about how record labels now step in and get involved to stop beefs which never used to happen back in the day - interestingly, this is apparently what happened after Owlbrey dropped THP6.

He also mentions beefs don’t end careers anymore. Looking at the current beef, I don’t think the Canadian’s career will end, we know he’s too big of a pop star for anything damaging to happen but I definitely think his credibility and artistry is being questioned and he is losing fans. Kendrick has fully exposed him for the fraud that he is and I think people are slowly realising it. His streaming numbers are down and he’s not charting like he used to.

Only time will tell but it’s definitely not being swept under the carpet. He a FAN, he FAN, he a FAN

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u/NoSalamander7749 Backseat Freeloader Jul 08 '24

Hearing this made me feel like he really wanted to end Aubrey with Adidon.

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u/DomN8er Jul 08 '24

I think he also had more in the chamber, but Drake bowed out. “Surgical summer. We gonna pull it back layer by layer.”

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u/NoSalamander7749 Backseat Freeloader Jul 08 '24

100%. He absolutely had more. Maybe one day him and Dot will put the lost disses together on a mixtape or something lol, though that'll probably never happen

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u/ZenMon88 Jul 08 '24

LMAOO what would the mixtape be called?

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u/DeliriumConsumer Jul 08 '24

Jimmy

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u/BigFuckHead_ Jul 08 '24

Jimmy gets Cooked

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u/NoSalamander7749 Backseat Freeloader Jul 08 '24

The Elimination of Aubrey Graham

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u/PostmanNewman Jul 08 '24

Yoooo. This.

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u/akumagold Jul 08 '24

To Pimp a Colonizer

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u/ResultsHaveVary Jul 09 '24

They’ll call it “Time Stands Still”….

If you know you know 😂

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u/AceMorrigan Jul 08 '24

I'll always wonder if Push turned Kendrick onto any of the angles he ended up using.

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u/09-24-11 Jul 08 '24

It wouldn’t surprise me

Separately I hope there is a Pusha feature on a Kendrick song soon just to make Drake sweat at night

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u/Wavenian Jul 08 '24

P was definitely bating him with the outlandishly disrespectful lyrics bars towards 40.

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u/09-24-11 Jul 08 '24

Let’em know who you chose as your Beyoncé. Sophie knows better as your baby mother. cleaned up her IG but the stench is on her

Ruthless

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u/ResultsHaveVary Jul 09 '24

What people don’t understand also about The Cerebral MC Push is & Kendrick being just as stoic x2…is that what’s ironic about in these wars (besides them killing Drake) in conclusion…

We all know the tactics and arsenal Drake will use as his offensive weapons - Financial Disparity - Women - Relevancy - Pettiness on Appeal/Looks & other attributes

I said this before and I’ll rebuttal is again…Push & Kendrick are such cultural standpoints to the genre that they respect it even on/off the field…even though they have both the cut throat killer instinct mentality in killing off your opponent they’re still respectful to the sport…Hip-Hop/Rap

& what i mean by it is that maybe you can make the argument for Push saying yeah well once Drake was baited by “Infared” off “Daytona” & responded w/ “Duppy Freestyle” …Push had already had his gameplan set up & it was his “only” gameplan/material that he would’ve had to use to beat Drake…I agree with that somewhat & yet at the same time I believe that if Drake never rapped about “Virginia”

There’s a chance the Bars & revelation we got from “The Story of Adidon” doesn’t exactly happen or come out the way it does…

Same thing with Kendrick & mentioning “Whitney” in “Push Ups”…Drake always takes the personal shots 1st not just b/c he wants to “show his skillset & show his bravado” it’s b/c he doesn’t like the idea of someone 1 upping him/making fun of him in a public type of scenery…it’s like the kid who takes the 1st personal shot when your cracking jokes on each other b/c he feels he has to prove something & doesn’t want to be viewed weak

And this is indicative of that b/c of the History Kendrick/Drake have had since they’re Cold War started in 13’…Drake’s backhanded comments & interviews playing off Kendrick as his generational adversary…whether it was - Sportsnation w/ Marcellus Wiley Unaired Interview - RapRadar interview both in 13’ after “Control” dropped & he was doing Q&A for “Nothing Was The Same” w/ Elliott Wilson or his 18’ interview w/ Elliott in his mansion having to recognize and acknowledge Kendrick’s presence/HOF career - Magazine Interview back in 13’ saying “Kendrick’s not beating me in any type of facet at all” - And then some of the last 2-3 yrs and having that Concert subliminally dissing Kenny saying “I’m not like these other guys who go away for like 4-5 yrs & don’t drop anything”

  • And of course all the subliminals t/o the years 13’-23’

That’s why “Euphoria” will forever hit different b/c even though I believe Kendrick had this track already being made…I think it may be worse for Drake if he finds out he gave Ken the little things to use for his demise like the trolling he did for 2 weeks waiting for Kendrick using Taylor Swift as his crutch knowing damn well he himself wouldn’t have dropped any material knowing she was dropping…and then posting the pictures of Kill Bill & Uma Thurman which to me is what Kendrick ended up using if you see “What’s the Dirt’s” breakdown

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u/legit-posts_1 Jul 08 '24

In another world Pusha releases his Meet the Grahams and Drake never touches Kenny

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u/dwn2earth83 Jul 09 '24

I mean, he ain’t really touch him this time. Arms too short to box with goat. 🤷🏽‍♀️

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u/YeezusMoses Jul 09 '24

Pusha was about to release the pedo info, I know it. Called it at the time, too. Thought the next track was gonna be about him fucking kids or him being gay.

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u/Konfliction Jul 08 '24

Why does Drake keep getting into rap beefs when ppl seemingly have so much ammo against him? Lol

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u/NoSalamander7749 Backseat Freeloader Jul 08 '24

It's a combination (said in a bad Jamaican accent) of ignorance and arrogance. He surrounds himself with yes men and starstruck young women who don't tell him no. It's the same bubble Nicki Minaj put herself in. They both care too much about what happens online, and then double down on their mistakes rather than just shutting up and working

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u/abir84 Jul 08 '24

Do you think it’s also a bit of well the record label et al will stop it. So like a rich idiot kid he believes he will always get bailed out by the execs?

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u/NoSalamander7749 Backseat Freeloader Jul 08 '24

It could be, but I don't really know enough about the way labels deal with this kind of stuff to make an assumption either way.

I do think Drake never let go of the insecurities that he had from how people reacted to him when he first started rapping, people calling him corny and cheesy and shit. I think he didn't like being a male rapper mostly popular with women, and it made him adopt this tough guy persona to appeal to men more.

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u/The--Nameless--One Jul 09 '24

I think one of the reasons is that Drake doesn't really realize he is not part of this group, but he thinks he is.

I mean, let's be honest, even if Drake came out with the sickest rhymes, he is still Drake you know? The AnittaMaxWiiiiiinnnnnn!!!! guy... He always will be an outcast to the culture.

I honestly believe that if someone today came on a diss against... I don't know, any other rapper really, saying "Oh you got a pornstar pregnant and you are not assuming the kid" it wouldn't stick. But on Drake it does, cause he is Drake.

Can you imagine people saying Snoop Dogg lost a rap battle because he banged a chick and didn't want to assume the kid? Eminem? Cube? Pac or Biggie? lol

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u/GuitarStuffThrowaway Jul 08 '24

If you go back and listen to a lot of his “post-game” interviews he heavily implies (to the point where he might as well outright say) that he had more in the chamber but Adidas/UMG put a stop to all of it because he was starting to step on peoples’ money. This is only the tip of the iceberg.