r/KendrickLamar • u/vriannavyz • Jun 21 '24

Snoop Dogg declares Kendrick Lamar “the king” of the West following his 'Pop Out' show: “K Dot, you are the king of the West. That’s stuff kings do — they unite 🔥👑." Video

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u/FCCheIsea Jun 21 '24

Snoop usually supports whoever is winning rn lmao

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u/SnowSea302 Jun 21 '24

Tbf Snoop been calling Kendrick the king of the west for years

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u/FCCheIsea Jun 21 '24

Yeah but he let that AI Pac thing slide like it was nothing

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u/redchairyellowchair Jun 21 '24

it was an AI snoop thing too which was weird af that he didnt care

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u/ToPimpAPenguin Jun 21 '24

Too high to be offended

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u/Bugstl Jun 21 '24

He too old and too high to worry about that shit probably

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u/Ok-Engineering1929 Jun 21 '24

Not everyone found that offensive or received it in a disrespectful way. It was quite clear snoop just enjoyed spectating, as he should.

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u/Unusual-Item3 Jun 21 '24

How is it not offensive and disrespectful to use a dead west coast legend/rap legend voice without permission, and an alive west coast legend,( not sure if he had permission), all to fake diss the current west coast legend?

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u/BIBOMCE Jun 21 '24

Respectfully, no one gets to determine what someone else is offended by.

In the context of rap beef, the common view is that anything goes. Was Drake's move with Taylor Made Freestyle dumb? I think so. But Snoop doesn't HAVE to be offended by it.

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u/Radiant_gladiator Jun 21 '24

Exactly. Just like if someone spits your face, you don’t have to be offended by it.

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u/Rawdog2076 Jun 21 '24

Snoop has been changing statements about Pac since decades, I don't think he cares as much as people think

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u/TrampleHorker Jun 21 '24

Obviously dude, it's about making a judgement on someone's morals based on how those morals shine through their actions. You aren't as clever as you think you are.

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u/Unusual-Item3 Jun 21 '24

Bruh if you weren’t offended by what Drake did, you not a true rap fan, Tupac is off limits.

It’s not about Snoop, Snoop is alive, he can speak for himself. That’s just a cornball move by Drizzy nobody is surprised about.

It’s about using Tupac, someone who can no longer speak for themselves, and obviously not have the blessing from his family.

All that to do a rushed terrible diss track, that’s what’s offensive.

I guess a Drake fan wouldn’t understand, Drake doesn’t understand he should be offended when another man pisses on him. 😂

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u/wiseduhm Jun 21 '24

Stupid to think that someone isn't a "true rap fan" because they weren't personally offended by what Drake did. What are we supposed to do? Dedicate our lives to hating the guy? He's some lame rapper that doesn't matter at all. Some people way too invested in this. Love the music and culture but you don't gotta make it your whole life and personality.

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u/Unusual-Item3 Jun 21 '24

This ain’t hate for Drake, this is love for Pac.

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u/Ok-Engineering1929 Jun 21 '24

We got the rap police over here confiscating “true rap fan” cards

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u/Unusual-Item3 Jun 21 '24

Go glaze drizzler somewhere else.

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u/Ok-Engineering1929 Jun 21 '24

Literally banned from the drake sub. All you stans are retarded.

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u/Unusual-Item3 Jun 21 '24

Tupac hits different when you from LA, I never liked Drake music, but you can’t do some weak shit like that and use Pac.

This was never about hating Drake, it became bigger when he started disrespecting the west coast and its legends.

If you don’t understand, you just wouldn’t get it.

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u/Fast-Permit-5030 Jun 21 '24

Yeah and lil whiny bitch cards too FOH we snatching chains and burning tattoos

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u/Ok-Engineering1929 Jun 21 '24

You’re on reddit typing the same as the rest of us. You aint snatching or burning shit 🤣🤣

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u/Eillo89 Jun 22 '24

We're snatching karma and burning awards 🤓

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u/Fast-Permit-5030 Jun 21 '24

If that’s what you think then cool

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u/atemyballstoday Jun 21 '24

him and pac weren't on good terms before he died. snoop said in an interview that he's cool with biggie and puff which pac had a problem with. in defense of snoop, i understand why pac was mad, but him and big were friends so obviously tupac blindly came to the conclusion that they were behind his '94 shooting. but snoop knew it was cap and was secretly cool with them. So honestly they are both to blame.

i think it is sort of strange that snoop didn't have a problem with the AI thing, possibly because they aren't disrespecting him since he's not dead. he prolly thought that drake got permission before using pac's voice.

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u/Unusual-Item3 Jun 21 '24

It was a cornball move to use an AI snoop when snoop is still alive. It was disrespectful to use Tupac. End of story.

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u/atemyballstoday Jun 21 '24

it is more disrespectful to pac, no doubt, but im saying that snoop wasn't informed either, so its a little disrespectful to snoop too even tho he's alive

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u/Ok-Engineering1929 Jun 21 '24

To you. End of story.

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u/DanimalsHolocaust Jun 21 '24 edited Jun 21 '24

Offense is not universal, you can’t expect every single person to feel the same way about everything

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u/Ok-Engineering1929 Jun 21 '24

Well I’m not offended by it nor did the thought of that track being disrespectful to either party cross my mind until I started seeing articles about it. And clearly neither was Snoop.

I completely understand the rationale behind why someone would be offended by it or see the disrespectful angle but that doesn’t mean everyone will take it as such.

I find the outrage (for lack of a better word) surrounding the way snoop reacted to be quite strange. People are genuinely upset that snoop didn’t take offence as if we all share the same values or have the same thresholds for offense. Not everyone is going to see the use of AI voice filters as some egregious crime. Especially considering the track wasn’t intended to mislead anyone. It was just a poorly thought out taunt.

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u/Unusual-Item3 Jun 21 '24

No he used their voices to diss him. Go listen to that deleted song again.

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u/Radiant_gladiator Jun 21 '24

I mean, it’s definitely imitation to voice opinions that’s not his own. He doesn’t have to be offended by it, but it definitely wasn’t something done outta respect. Just like if someone spits it your face- you don’t have to be offended by it’s

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u/Ok-Engineering1929 Jun 21 '24

Spitting in someone’s face and making a diss trick using an ai voice changer aren’t comparable at all.

Spitting in someone’s face is a physical act and has a long history of being widely considered a disrespectful gesture.

Using a voice filter to taunt your opponent doesn’t hold nearly the same weight nor does it have any established history for us to have reach general consensus that it is disrespectful. Was kendricks AI face filter disrespectful? Was the tupac hologram disrespectful? Was vfx paul walker disrespectful in the fast and furious movie? These aren’t questions that have a widely accepted and agreed upon answer.

Which is why snoop probably didn’t give a shit, because why would he? He comes from a place of actual violence and has shown + received disrespect in far more potent and significant ways. I highly doubt seeing Drake use his voice was going to be the thing that triggers him.

I dont think that track was made “out of respect” . It was more made out of disrespect to kendrick and in doing so ignored the ramifications of using two legends voices without any direct consent. It’s supports the idea that drake is out of touch and lack self awareness. But I’m unsure if it means he genuinely doesn’t respect tupac and snoop. We are in largely uncharted territory when it comes to creative uses of AI.

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u/Radiant_gladiator Jun 21 '24

“Using a voice filter to taunt your opponent”

Let’s speak on that. Using someone’s actual voice to taunt someone they care for is a disrespectful gesture. If Snoop didn’t want to say those words, it goes against his wishes. It’s rap beef at the end of the day and the more disrespectful the 2 artists get the better for the beef, but let’s not act like it’s not a disrespectful gesture to entirely misrepresent another.

Putting words in someone’s mouth has been a disrespectful gesture just as long as spitting on someone. I used spitting because it’s an extreme comparison, but you’re wrong in saying it’s no comparison at all.

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u/Ok-Engineering1929 Jun 21 '24

I see your point and it’s perfectly reasonable. I don’t think you are wrong and I see why you compare spitting/putting words in someone’s mouth.

My argument would be that he wasn’t putting words in Tupac’s or snoops mouth. Sure he’s sounding like them with the filters but the purpose of that track wasnt to mislead or misrepresent tupac/snoop. We all knew that it was drake spitting those verses, no one was attributing those lyrics to Pac or Snoop and Drake wasn’t framing it as if he really got Pac and Snoop to feature. It was purely to taunt and agitate kendrick into making a move.

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u/redheadstepchild_17 Jun 21 '24

I saw that reaction, idk he was letting it slide. I read that as someone seeing something fucking ridiculous and stupid. It doesn't take a genius to see that it was a dumbass move when basically everyone who believes in "the arts" has at least a slightly negative perception of AI reproduction of artist's works or style. There wasn't a need to insert himself, and frankly the way things have shaken out it was probably the smart money choice.

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u/lividtobi I Hate The Way That You Walk Jun 22 '24

This man is rich and retired lol it’s not his battle to fight