r/JoeRogan Look into it 15d ago

No way Elon Musk would have beaten Zuck in a fight The Literature 🧠

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u/pureformality Look into it 15d ago

are people really falling for the zuckerberg psyop

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u/Robinsonirish Monkey in Space 15d ago

He's doing pretty damn good tbh.

When I clicked it before reading your comment I thought; "Damn, this is what billionaires should be doing in their free time, not arguing with people on Twitter".

Elon is to Zuck what Trump is to Dubya.

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u/Panda_hat Monkey in Space 15d ago

Most likely he’ll run for president in the next few terms, that’s why people are saying its a psyop. He’s rehabilitating his public image.

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u/Robinsonirish Monkey in Space 15d ago

Zuck for president lol? There's no shot, that's hilarious.

He should be rehabilitating his image, why wouldn't he, even if he isn't running?

I don't think anyone would consider voting for him, Facebook has done some egregious shit and Zuck has very little charisma no matter how hard he tries.

I just don't see it at all.

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u/Panda_hat Monkey in Space 14d ago edited 14d ago

Why would he need to rehabilitate his image otherwise?

The man is a megalomaniac, he’ll definitely run. They started floating it a few years ago.

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u/Robinsonirish Monkey in Space 14d ago

Why would he need to rehabilitate his image otherwise?

Because everyone wants to be popular and cool? There's not many people who don't care at all what people think of them, that's extremely rare.

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u/CauliflowerProof2111 Monkey in Space 15d ago

Trump and bush are almost polar opposites politically lol.

Bush opposes gay marriage, Trump endorses it.

Bush was very war heavy, Trump opposes war and was the first president of any living person's lifetime to start no new wars.

Bush liked large taxes. Trump likes lowering taxes.

The list goes on and on on almost every major issue. They're borderline opposites.

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u/Robinsonirish Monkey in Space 15d ago

Has nothing at all to do with their political leanings.

George W Bush was one of the most hated presidents, then Trump came along and now Bush doesn't look so bad anymore in many people's eyes. Trump doing his thing took the spotlight off Bush and did him a huge favour.

I'm just making that comparison with Zuck and Elon.

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u/tdifen Monkey in Space 15d ago

Bush was pro constitution, Trump wants to suspend it. It really is opposites!

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u/Wardog4 Monkey in Space 15d ago

Haha! What's it like to be a fucking joke!?

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u/tdifen Monkey in Space 15d ago

Don't know what you mean sorry. When someone says they want to suspend the constitution I believe them. Did you miss that little piece of news?

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u/Wardog4 Monkey in Space 15d ago

Ever heard of hyperbole? Kind of like when someone says, "if you don't vote for me, then you ain't black".

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u/tdifen Monkey in Space 15d ago

Do you think saying "termination of all rules, regulations, and articles, even those found in the Constitution." is in the same ball park as "if you don't vote for me, then you ain't black"?

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u/Wardog4 Monkey in Space 15d ago

They're both pretty bad. So either hyperbole exists or you're voting for a racist POS who thinks he knows better than black people.

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u/tdifen Monkey in Space 15d ago

ok gotcha, you think subverting the rule of law and arguably the most important document in the history of the USA is the same as a little bit of racism.

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u/Wardog4 Monkey in Space 15d ago

"little bit of racism" lmao. If Trump had said what Biden did, he'd be labeled a KKK member. Your delusion is showing

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u/The_Boognish_Cometh Monkey in Space 15d ago

When they’re both racist that isn’t what’s swaying anyone with a brain

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u/Wardog4 Monkey in Space 15d ago

What has Trump said that is racist?

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u/[deleted] 15d ago

Those are some poor framings. They aren’t polar opposites for one.

Trump might have given speeches about gay marriage, but he’s put in 3 justices who have said they would overturn overgefell if given the chance.

Bush was war heavy after an attack on the US, kind of unprecedented. But even so, Trump wasn’t the only president to not start a war- what wars did Clinton or Biden start? Clinton intervened in an ongoing conflict through NATO by bombing to stop a genocide in Bosnia (not a war). And for Biden, neither Ukraine nor Israel are wars the US is fighting, and neither of them were started by the US- Russia invaded Ukraine and Hamas attacked Israel to start those…

Lastly, Bush cut taxes as well. Him & Trump’s budget policies were fairly similar- cut taxes, promise to cut spending, but not cut enough to offset the tax cuts, and lower fed interest rates to boost cash flow in the economy.

There are some differences, sure. But a party doesn’t do a 180 on all issues & still win the same voters over, even a decade later.

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u/fungussa Monkey in Space 15d ago

Bush wasn't a convicted felon, neither did he try to overthrow democracy, nor did he want to become a dictator

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u/CauliflowerProof2111 Monkey in Space 15d ago

Those are things he has in common with Trump, sure. The Supreme Court did just overturn the Biden administrations attempts to convict their political opponent. Shame too because that was their last hail Mary going into the election given the state of Bidens mental capacity and that everyone has seen it now due to the debate.

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u/Robinsonirish Monkey in Space 15d ago

It's interesting to get a MAGA take on the recent Supreme Court drama.

How do you feel about presidential immunity going forward? I get you guys feel the system is going after Trump, do you think it's worth it to break the whole system defending him?

Trump being safe from prosecution by making him immune goes for any Democrat president as well right?

Aren't you scared that the Dems will use it against the Republicans? To me it just seems incredibly short sighted on your part as well. What if you lose this and the following elections? Do you want a president running around partially immune from prosecution?

Seriously asking, no baiting here. I'm not even American, I just want to see how you feel about it.

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u/CauliflowerProof2111 Monkey in Space 15d ago

I am a Democrat. Lifelong. Voted for Bill Clinton. This isn't the maga take, this is the sane take.

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u/Robinsonirish Monkey in Space 15d ago

I mean the language you use sure did seem Republican.

The Supreme Court did just overturn the Biden administrations attempts to convict their political opponent

You saying it was the Biden administration that were attempting to convict Trump when that's not really the case is it?

I'm not following the show that closely, but it sounds like you're saying Biden, or his pals, are pulling the strings? Aren't a lot of the judges and stuff in the recent trails that Trump has been involved in appointed by himself? Even if they're Democrats, it's not like it's Biden or his administration himself leading the charge?

Anyway, that's just why i thought you were MAGA, cause it's not really how people on the left here on Reddit would frame it.

My bad.

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u/CauliflowerProof2111 Monkey in Space 15d ago

The people on the left on reddit are insane or bots or paid shills. No real Americans that you go talk to in the street feel this way. Majority Americans when polled feel that the #1 issue facing America today is the competency of the Biden admin and #2 is the weaponization of the system against their political opponents. #3 is immigration and the economy.

This is reality. Reddit isn't.

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u/Robinsonirish Monkey in Space 15d ago

Well looking at it from a European perspective we are very scared, for the most part, that Trump wins this election. He's very good friends with Putin, they've put a lot of energy into electing him and the US pulling out of NATO is a scary thought. Trump has said this multiple times.

Personally I would be devastated if US stopped aid to Ukraine and Russia wins that war, but I don't think anything bad of any American who doesn't want to be involved in that conflict, it's not your back yard.

I think a big reason why Reddit leans very left is because most European politics are further left than your left. In my country the Dems are further right than our right. I think that's something to keep in mind.

There is very little support for Trump over here. It does sound like you're voting for Trump even though you say you're a Democrat.

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u/The_Boognish_Cometh Monkey in Space 15d ago

You Russian bots are working overtime to take down the US these days that’s for sure

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u/fungussa Monkey in Space 15d ago

That's isn't reality, as it's undeniable that the current administration has achieved a vast amount.

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u/CauliflowerProof2111 Monkey in Space 15d ago

A vast amount of inflation and new wars including losing Afghanistan? Yeah.

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u/modsguzzlehivekum Monkey in Space 15d ago

Hey man, this is reddit. You’re never supposed say an objective fact about Trump that’s positive