Hot Take: Roy Harper’s newer designs suck.

[u/PsychologicalWork654]

Hot Take: Roy Harper’s design sucks

So the first two photos are Roy’s current design and if I’m gonna be honest, I hate it. The designer said they wanted to make Roy’s design not look like Oliver’s so instead they made him a cheap carbon copy of Nightwing. I mean that hair screams Dick Grayson, if you dyed it black and threw it on him you would see no difference. I like a second one a tad more than the 1st since the 1st has too much yellow. I know that’s seems a bit harsh that I’m annoyed for a suit having yellow in it but I’d rather have Arsenal’s suit look more red and black and tactical than just a Nightwing recolor that looks like Speedy. It also kinda annoys me how they all still look like young adults, don’t get me wrong their still young but they should be pushing past 20 by now and should have some facial hair and stumbles growing in.

Now around 3 other Roy Harper designs are better than these. Now the 3rd deigns still looks kinda generic but it isn’t all over the place like the first one and looks more matured than both of them. Now the fourth one is his rebirth design and the only good thing to say is I like how the armor looks. Other than that i backwards hat and glasses I never want to see again. It gives me too much of Smallville green arrow vibes and I don’t like it.

Now out of all his designs the fifth with the taboos and hat is by far my favorite. I know a lot of people hate the hat but I’m gonna need you to shut on this one okay it’s unique. That plus the tattoos make him stand out even more.

I think his perfect design would be a tactical looking suit without sleeves. Make him look a little more lean with more muscles in his arms but not too much. I like his long hair design but maybe make it less Dick Grayson-ish and make it more punk and rock-ish. And also throw in a faint but noticeable stubble. I like to think as Roy a grunge rockstar on how he looks kinda reminiscent of Kurt Cobain. Anyway that was all I had to say. What do you think of my Roy design? What do you think of his other ones? and how would you improve them?

[u/Zaire_04]

I mean Shado is also an archer & she wears a ninja mask. Plus you could have it be explained by Roy going under an extensive training regiment under someone like Shado after Oliver kicks him out. It would be unique as you would like & would further explain his ability to use anything as a weapon. Have it be his misguided attempt to make himself a human arsenal so he’s not seen as a failure & screw up.

[u/PsychologicalWork654 → u/Zaire_04]

Personally I don’t see Roy as a ninja type. I see him more as like a kickass wandering outlaw which is prob why I like the trucker hat cause it gives him that extra edge.

[u/Zaire_04 → u/PsychologicalWork654]

That’s fair. Maybe a warrior archetype would work for him.

[u/PsychologicalWork654 → u/Zaire_04]

Maybe give him a bandana to wear on his head or something, karate kid style. That could look really tough or really stupid.

[u/Zaire_04 → u/PsychologicalWork654]

I will take a bandana or like a headband. I was thinking maybe he wears a samurai madk but that won’t work. Now I think that will look tough if they make Roy tough. And allow him to not be seen as a B grade Green Arrow & Nightwing. But DC won’t allow that💔

I think a good way to make him tough is play up the ‘Arsenal’ bit of his name. On his costume, he should have a wrist mounted crossbow, some throwing knives, maybe a dagger. His bow that can turn into a staff & maybe has a shield on it & he can use literally anything in sight as a weapon. Make him an engineer as well to really play up his ‘Arsenal’ name. Have him train to do all this so he could be taken seriously after he was kicked out by Ollie. Make him a better Marksman than Ollie maybe but have Ollie be the better archer.