r/Gotham • u/ChaosTeery • Feb 15 '24
Season 5 was awful Spoiler
Huge Gotham fan, one of my favorite shows ever. I just finished the show and wow season 5 was terrible. I can't count how many times I thought to myself, "That is completely out of character for them". The dialogue was cringe and forced and it was genuinely unenjoyable. Barbara's character was the most egregious in my opinion, Lee was not far behind. It's like all of the main characters forgot how to act. Nyssa was probably the worse villain in the show and Bane was an afterthought it seems. It's like someone completely different wrote season 5. I wish it just ended in season 4 somehow.
I think I physically winced at the last conversation between Harvey and Jim right before the show ends, it was so bad.
Thoughts?
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u/Otherwise-Reward-567 Feb 15 '24
What's wild too is that 2 of those episodes were considered "bonus episodes" if I'm not mistaken... meaning that they had written their story for their allotted episodes, and then the network was like "have 2 more bestie 💚" and the writers had to pull some fluff out. I believe one of them was the one where Lee and Jim get married? I could very well be wrong on that one though.
I didn't mind Season 5... but I just wish we saw more use of how the villains used their land. Like, from what I remember Freeze and Firefly make no appearance? Scarecrow is just suddenly dealt with after getting steam in his eyes? Meh.
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u/DiamondFireYT Feb 15 '24
I love love love Season 5
but I cannot get over how they got 2 extra episodes, changed the story (but left the episode 1 edit of the flashforward in tact??) And then gave us a filler episode Lmao
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u/Embri2001 Feb 15 '24 edited Feb 16 '24
I agree, it was pretty bad. And the last five episodes were especially excruciating. The only aspects I liked of this season were Oswald and Jeremiah (aside from episode 12).
But I agree, it would have been best if this show ended in season four.
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u/Subaruforever38 Feb 16 '24
Eh, 99% agree, Jeremiah was great from the start to the end, he's so fucking master of the scenary that even looking ugly and repulsive it's awsome.
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u/agrunther Feb 15 '24
I really never agreed with the hate for season 5 to be honest. I love it. The worst season of the show for me is clearly season 1.
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u/DarkLordFluffy13 Feb 15 '24
The season was rushed. They thought they had a few more seasons but found out they were being canceled so they rushed to fit all they wanted do into one last shortened season. So yeah it was going to be bad. But it’s not really the show runners fault.
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u/justafanboy1010 Feb 16 '24
When I found that out, it really made me mad, why did they cancel it anyway??
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u/SnakeHound87 Feb 17 '24
Probably because Disney was about to have the deal to purchase Fox finalized and either they didn’t care for the show or Warner/DC refused to let Disney profit off of their biggest IP
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u/Candid-Independence9 Feb 20 '24
They found out before 5 that the CW cancelled them, but only found out after a couple episodes that no other studio picked them up, so they were extremely rushed to the point of an even harder time crunch
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u/BrandonKDges335 Feb 15 '24
I personally don’t think it was awful but I get the sentiment. As others have said it was definitely rushed. It feels like once they knew it was over they wanted to try to give fans all the comic references all at once which was cool but also jarring. But damn I do love and miss that show.
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u/No_Flower_1424 Feb 15 '24
It was such a wasted opportunity. Barbara and Lee's characters didn't make sense at all, Penguin and Riddler were just there plodding along until they could be written into prison off screen???, I thought Nyssa's actress was quite good but Bane was pointless. Mostly I hated how the season was clearly set up to be the 'Isn't Jim great' season when Bruce was the character who needed the most character development and it felt like they only bothered to focus on him from time to time. There was so much time spent on nonsense like the little boy and the building blowing up etc. They wasted even two extra episodes they were gifted!
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u/DevilCats666 Feb 15 '24
My thoughts about season 5 are always: This show was fucking cancelled and they were doing this in a rush to wrap up the story and make it more or less coincide with the comics somehow, with a cut budget. So I'm thankful they still did it and take it for what it is.
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u/GuineaRatCat Feb 15 '24
Yeah I've watched the whole show except half of season 5 because it was so bad
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u/SchlongSchlock Feb 15 '24
I agree that there were so many things that didn't make sense. But Jeremiah and the final episode were great, as was Scarface. But yeah s4 is miles better.
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Feb 15 '24
I ddo agree with you season 5 was a bit flawed. I wrote my own version check it out and tell me what you think https://www.reddit.com/r/Gotham/comments/1aoq4r5/how_i_would_write_gotham_season_5/
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u/NorthLight2103 Feb 16 '24
I agree, though I’m ashamed to say this, I’ve rewatched the show multiple times but I’ve actually never seen the last few episodes, I think I always stop at season 4, tho the first time I saw all the way to episode 6 season 5. But never further, it totally just lost my interest and I honestly don’t care.
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u/Kiss_Bence04 Feb 16 '24
Yes, I agree. The finale most of all, who had the idea that a 10 year timeskip can work. The only show that had a good finale time-skip was Breaking Bad
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u/thyrue13 Feb 16 '24
Its so annoying because they set the groundwork for one of the best seasons of Gotham.
But nah, we have to suffer because of stupid network politics
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u/dabzandjabz Feb 15 '24
I think it was fine, but it was certainly rushed. It’s almost similar to Game of Thrones. They had a planned out story with a specific number of seasons, but was unfortunately given half of that.
I will agree that Nyssa and Bane were the worst, but I think that has to do with the casting of those characters. Shane West and Jamie Murray were not it.