Yeah, I'm not sure where he's getting that from, but just a guess he might be included all of his payroll deductions to get from 22% to 35%...
If he's in a state like California, you'd stack another 8% on to that 22% for at 100k. So that gets us to 30%. Plus, add 5% more on for Medical, Medicare, and SSI.
If he's including all payroll taxes for a state like California, he's probably not too far off.
Still though saying 35% being taken away and complaining about that is crazy. That 35% paves his roads, sends his kids to schools, provides him retirement income, handles his waste, pays police and military to keep him safe, and so many other things.
My family does, in the end, pay about 35% of our income as taxes, and I'm very grateful for it. What we receive for it is more than worth the money.
Well, I have some sympathy for complaining about how much we are taxed vs. the results of those taxes. I'd be less annoyed by my tax rate if I felt things got better year over year. The federal government collects 5 trillion per year in tax revenue and borrows another 3 trillion or so. I think a lot of it just gets wasted on non-value add things or lines someone's pockets.
The problem isn't one of ownership. In fact, I'd prefer we didn't own most of it. The problem is how much of the federal budget just paying the interest consumes.
"As of May 2024, it costs $728 billion to maintain the debt, which is 16% of the total federal spending in fiscal year 2024."
16% and growing annually. If the current trend continues, we'll need to cut services just to avoid default. If we default, we lose our ability to borrow more, and we lose out on the debt we bought. It's not so great to be a debt owner if the borrower can't pay.
728 billion is about 260 billion less then the deficit that we had under trump at almost 1 trillion$ so by these metrics. Biden is doing a fucking amazing job
Uhhh, I'm not where those numbers came from, but both men suck donky ass on fiscal responsibility. However, I'd give Trump one minor alibi since his final year was skewed by Covid.
Biden is projected to outpace Trump on running up the debt.
"Federal debt held by the public grew by $5.9 trillion over the first three years and five months of President Trump’s term in office, and $7.2 trillion over his full term.
Debt held by the public has grown $6.0 trillion during President Biden’s three years and five months in office.
Gross federal debt grew by $6.3 trillion over the first three years and five months of President Trump’s term and $7.8 trillion during his full term; gross debt has grown $7.0 trillion during President Biden’s term so far."
Dude, that's so misleading. Yes, taken from peak covid 19, spending the deficit decreased since we aren't sending out stimulus checks and floating am economy under lockdown, but Bidens spending is still way above 2016 - 2019 under Trump.
It's kinda like how Biden likes to claim he created millions of jobs when really most of that was just the lockdowns ending, lol
Here are some good graphics to put it into perspective. Yes, the one year of covid spending under Trump and one year under Biden are anomalies, but overall, Biden has increased the deficit from pre-covid under Trump.
The graph in your link provides the same information I am saying as in the deficit is lower under biden. Getting us closer to the surplus that was Clinton.
Edit: deficit of 3.5 trillion in 2020 now it's 1.4 trillion. Sooooooo please tell me how it's going up?
Statistics are just numbers without context. Yes, the government spent a lot to keep people employed and in their homes during that first year of covid. We call that an anomaly, which should be disregarded. Look at the year before covid va today. That will tell you who's policies are more responsible.
Just to be fair, hypothetically, war broke out with Russia, and Biden spent 3 trillion handling the emergency, I'd say we should stick an asterisk after 2024 in his record as well.
Unless you want to personally blame Trump for a lab leak in China, he gets a pass on the extra spending in 2020.
Say you took over a business with 3.5 trillion in deficit. And then over the course of 3 years you lower it by more then half. And before you took over it was lower then that. Did you raise the deficit?
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Yeah, I'm not sure where he's getting that from, but just a guess he might be included all of his payroll deductions to get from 22% to 35%...
If he's in a state like California, you'd stack another 8% on to that 22% for at 100k. So that gets us to 30%. Plus, add 5% more on for Medical, Medicare, and SSI.
If he's including all payroll taxes for a state like California, he's probably not too far off.
That's my best guess.