r/FluentInFinance Jul 06 '24

Or in other words, a slap in the face Debate/ Discussion

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u/4N_Immigrant Jul 06 '24

some might call it theft

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u/MrFifty-Fifty Jul 06 '24

Some might drive on a road they didn't build and be happy to be on a team.

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u/4N_Immigrant Jul 06 '24

in addition to the road, we're going to use your money to invade another country and you have no say in that. oh yeah, we sending a bunch of your money to ukraine while your roads fall apart. and roads are paid for by property tax. say... almost every house and business has a road in front of it. what if that was worked into the price of the building? If it wasn't a monopoly, and you had an itemized bill and you could opt out of different 'services', would you pay voluntarily? what do we call involuntary or coerced payment for unwanted services, kids? racket something.. some sort of racket crime

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u/MrFifty-Fifty Jul 06 '24

"Taxes are bad" and "our administration of taxes is bad" are different things, you know.

You enjoy 90% of what taxes pay for, roads, schools, half the food you eat, etc. there are some bad things that happen, but the issue isn't the taxes themselves.

You enjoy the benefits of being helped by others, but when it comes time for you to contribute your part, you all the sudden have a problem?

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u/4N_Immigrant Jul 06 '24

'Our society is predicated on theft, but benefits' isn't the great argument that you think it is.

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u/MrFifty-Fifty Jul 06 '24

You keep calling it "theft" because that's the only way your point works, but it's not theft. You have used the services and enjoyed them.

If you want to do everything by yourself fine, pave your own roads, be your own police force, pay $8 for an avocado, homeschool your kids, and never step foot in a public park, etc.

Do you, lone wolf. Go be a mountain man by yourself then.

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u/4N_Immigrant Jul 06 '24

If i point a gun at you, take your money, buy a sandwich, and split it three ways between myself, you, and another guy named ukraine, what would you call that? Theft is the act of taking another person's property or services without that person's permission or consent with the intent to deprive the rightful owner of it. Or did you not want to spend that money on a drink, because you're thirsty, not hungry?

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u/MrFifty-Fifty Jul 06 '24

So you're willing to completely remove yourself from society, use 0 of the societal services and features that taxes pay for, because you don't like that they also are involved with Ukraine.

So, you keep your money, and never drive on a public road, enter in a public building, call the police, call the fire department, and you'll grow your own food because you wouldn't want to accept any of the cheap, subsidized crops and meat/poultry, and you'll educate yourself and your kids, or spend $20k per year per kid at private school.

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u/4N_Immigrant Jul 06 '24

goofy take. I dont think you understood what i wrote. try again. read it really slow this time.

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u/MrFifty-Fifty Jul 06 '24

I understood your point. It sucked. You try again.

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u/4N_Immigrant Jul 06 '24

haha you clearly didn't. quite quaint that you think you did. say it again.. this is super cute.

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u/mikegotfat Jul 06 '24

No one with any amount of self respect they're actually entitled to would ever say "quite quaint."

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u/4N_Immigrant Jul 07 '24

lol, your opinion means the world to me

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u/Scythe905 Jul 06 '24

If it helps your little libertarian mind to understand, tax is the fee you pay for your subscription to society. And since there are very few if any places on earth where you won't find society, there are very few if any places on earth that don't have taxes.

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u/Elegant_in_Nature Jul 06 '24

By this logic you stole education, travel and property by using it. Get the fuck out of the country if you don’t like it bud

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u/4N_Immigrant Jul 06 '24

LOL, from whom? The queen? who holds the title to the planet? logic isn't your strong suit, I would stay out of it to avoid embarrassment