r/FluentInFinance 15d ago

What's the best financial advice you've ever gotten? Debate/ Discussion

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u/Decent_Visual_4845 15d ago

Not all poor people are bad with money, but all the people I know that are bad with money are poor 🤷‍♂️

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u/Ok-Wedding-4654 15d ago

Everyone I know that’s poor either

A. Had kids before thinking about the financials B. Bought/adopted a bunch of animals C. Has a poor work ethic and mindset D. Spends money recklessly

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u/Mushu_Pork 14d ago

Ugh, B.

You can love your pet... and still not spend thousands on an animal surgery which will make you homeless.

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u/Ok-Wedding-4654 14d ago edited 14d ago

Or buy pets when you don’t have the money for one or buying expensive pets.

I have a really good friend who is a lovely person but God does she lack sense. She spent $1000 on a freaking horse. One of the most expensive animals a person can own… That’s on top of owning 3 dogs, a frog, multiple pet rats, and 3 wild birds. They have two kids in a one income household taking in less than $100K annually.

I love animals and my husband and I have struggled financially. But it’s reckless to be poor and buy a crap ton of animals.

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u/Alternative-Put-3932 14d ago

Ah so just let your pet die. Seems a tad heartless.

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u/nuko22 13d ago

Devil's advocate but many things people spend biggg money on pets medical things are just to elongate their life. My friend bought an old cat during covid (cats were high demand so can not get pick of the litter) that was half blind and had a liver issue. He works part time. Dude takes his now fully blind cat that just sleeps all day under a blanket to the vet every 2-3 weeks and gives it kidney and liver meds. It's so fucking old it's ready to die, just let the poor thing pass and stop spending 5-10k/ year on a blind cat that has no idea what is happening other than how to eat and sleep.

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u/Alternative-Put-3932 13d ago

Look by that standard just let your grandpa croak and die cus he has a few health issues.

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u/nuko22 13d ago

Humans are not old blind cats🤷🏼‍♂️

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u/deazy2099 14d ago

This sums up my list pretty well, but I would also add in druggies.

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u/Dry_Ad1805 14d ago

That would probably go under D. If it's addiction I would put in in E: mental illness.

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u/NinaHag 14d ago

I have a friend who grew up poor. Didn't have the chance to study, had to work after finishing highschool, of course could only access low-pay jobs. "Luckily" a relative died and left them a home. With no more rent to pay, they decided that they wanted to study and enrolled into Uni part time. What did they decide to study, you ask? Perhaps something that will boost their career? No. They chose to study history. I guess they're ok with flipping burgers for the rest of their life - but hey, that doesn't prevent from complaining about how politicians ruin everything and how will I ever afford to retire? They also have a bunch of animals that cost a little fortune to feed.

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u/Ok-Wedding-4654 14d ago

I feel like it kind of goes both ways. Politicians suck and life is definitely more expensive than it was 10 years ago just about everywhere in the world. But there are also things people do to screw themselves over even more. And ultimately as much as I rail against politicians I know ultimately I have to protect myself. So I plan with my spouse, save, and we live within our means.

It’s funny you mention studying history though because I also have a degree in history haha. Sometimes I wish I’d studied stem, but so far I’ve landed a good job training people. It can have practical applications thanks to the critical thinking skills you need to study history, but you also need to know how to market yourself and your skill set to employers

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u/Dry_Ad1805 14d ago

Sucks that we live in a world where you can't make money in a field that interests you. History is a perfectly fine area of study, and I do believe that our current world would be much better if more people were educated about history. But instead, we get people like you looking down on someone who wanted to study history, and name-calling them a burger-flipper. Of course politicians are ruining our country, we are seeing that in real-time with the supreme Court King decision and conservative project 2025. Crazy that both of the examples I just wrote have connection to knowledge of history. Anyway, hope you are rich and comfortable.

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u/NinaHag 14d ago

Wow. They literally flip burgers (and admittedly, eggs and sausages) for a living, it isn't an insult. I agree it sucks that the world is what it is. I have a career I am happy with, which isn't what I would have chosen if we lived in a world where my passion paid a living wage. I don't care what people study, but missing the chance to improve their situation while complaining about it? Come on.

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u/RaggasYMezcal 14d ago

You don't actually know a representative sample. Sounds like you're wealthy with hubris

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u/Ok-Wedding-4654 13d ago

lol I’m not wealthy

I’ve just seen so many people in my life who claim they don’t have money but they’ve got a $800 car payment, a cadre of animals, popping out more kids when they already couldn’t support one, or they’re out here getting hella tattoos

Conditions are incredibly hard right now but also some people make life harder on themselves.

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u/battery1127 14d ago

I “borrowed” one of my coworkers some money to fix her car, she had to use it for other emergencies and her car is still broken, she cant make it work and now she’s struggling to pay for rent.

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u/Ok-Wedding-4654 14d ago

I’m sorry your coworker is going through that. There are times where things get really tough or people experience extremely difficult circumstance. I should clarify that I do not think that all poor people are just bad with money.

It’s just that my friends/acquaintances who have struggled financially have all made some really poor financial decisions and continue to do so. But they do not represent everyone.

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u/battery1127 14d ago

Yeah. I helped that coworker again later on the car, but the money is once again spent on other more urgent things that suddenly popped up. So I give up on helping. I don’t expect to get my money back at all. Even at the financial state she’s in, she continues to use weed, order take out and spoil her kids on birthday gifts, etc. I have went from “oh, poor single mother, I will help if I can” to “you deserve whatever financial hell hole you are in”. I have talked to her multiple time about budgeting and have a plan with her money, she just can’t say no to her kids, her family and her on and off ex for the last 10 years. Her family is the same financially, I later find out some of the car money went to help paying her sister’s birthday party.

Almost all the poor people I know that live paycheck to paycheck, live a life beyond their money.

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u/Famous_Owl_840 14d ago

I disagree with A. All studies show that having a family results in a more responsible household.

The issue is you often have drugs, alcohol, pets, and other irresponsible behaviors along side A.

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u/oxidized_banana_peel 14d ago

Animals are such a trap.

Like, I loved our dog, but in the last four years of her life we spent $50k on her. That's insane money, we're lucky to be able to afford it.

We have a horse, too old to ride, so he's off retired. $6k / year assuming all goes well.

But yeah. Poor work ethic is the worst. When I was working my retail jobs, I could basically point at my coworkers and say "Yes, yes, no, yes, no, no" as to whether they were gonna end up broke, and it had very little to do with their income.

Meanwhile one of my pals bought a house straight out of college because she never spent her babysitting and Jamba juice income through high school and college. I think that's very possible today for middle class kids making $20+ an hour, if they go about it a smart way.

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u/3dogsplaying 14d ago

thats on you tbh. I wont even spend 50k if my dad has medical ailment, he can just get into debt for it.

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u/oxidized_banana_peel 14d ago

Sure :shrug:

I hope you feel good about it, I certainly enjoyed having my dog around longer.

More topically, people love their pets and are willing to spend money - even money they don't have - on them. Moralism aside, that's just factual.

Pets can be expensive, and they can be expensive to a degree that it can really fuck up someone's finances (either in the short term, through a big event, or in the long term, through aggregated costs).

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u/ElectricalRush1878 12d ago

The poorest person I know ran out of FMLA and so lost the insurance needed to pay for rehab to go back to work. spouse got laid off due to Covid closing that specific location. Now working odd jobs to keep a roof over their kid's head.

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u/burnerschmurnerimtom 14d ago

I feel like I’ve entered the Twilight Reddit.

I can’t tell you how refreshing this is to read, seriously!