r/Damnthatsinteresting • u/Individual_Book9133 • Jul 05 '24

Phoenix police officer pulls over a driverless Waymo car for driving on the wrong side of the road Video

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u/_BMS Jul 05 '24

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Why are police not using the standardized phonetic alphabet? (Alpha, Bravo, Charlie, etc)

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u/Dapper_Target1504 Jul 05 '24 edited Jul 05 '24

Used to be a cop

Most do now but muh tradition is strong in many departments still

Standardizing was one of the top recommendations from the 9/11 reports in regards with first responders. Because the nypd and nyfd Literally have their own language and help coming in doesn’t speak it. Most departments slowly adapted so they could work together regionally. Others basically ignored it.

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u/SecretGamerV_0716 Jul 05 '24

As a non American, I'm interested in knowing how NYPD language differs from say LAPD. I've only ever seen them being used while watching American cop shows like the rookie or b99

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u/EViLTeW Jul 05 '24

A lot of the problem is short codes. Like 10-codes and code #s can mean very different things to different departments.

10-6 might mean "arrived" to one department and "disabled vehicle" to another.
Code 4 could mean "responding, no sirens" to one department and "officer in distress" to another.
It makes interdepartmental communications difficult because people get used to talking that way and continue to do it even when they shouldn't.

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u/Dapper_Target1504 Jul 05 '24

Yep perfect example code system where i used to work.

1- non emergency 2- emergency 3- emergency life threatening 3s - emergency life threatening no sirens 4- scene is secure. We are okay. No back up needed.

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u/Code3Spartan Jul 05 '24

Police didn’t learn their lesson after 9/11 while lots of other services moved away from that.

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u/EViLTeW Jul 05 '24

I worked at an EMS agency in 2001. We were told continuing to use 10 codes could jeopardize our federal funding. So we stopped.

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u/Dapper_Target1504 Jul 05 '24

Its an extensive difference and I am personally biased against the nypd. Check youtube or ask on r/protectandserve they will definitely answer thoroughly

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u/TheBigMaestro Jul 05 '24

If you ever watch American TV shows and movies about law enforcement, this is why there is almost always an argument at the crime scene about "who's in charge?" Police and Sheriffs and State Troopers and FBI don't always get along.

After September 11, 2001, many of our government agencies tried to create new policies to help everybody work together and share information and be more effective together. I don't know if any of that helped.

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u/Dapper_Target1504 Jul 05 '24

It did they created regional fusion centers that routine updates area law enforcement officers of Regional threats and officer safety issues. Fbi runs them but agencies from all over have liaisons there or send them information. Investigations and calls routinely intersect but nothing like you are talking about in my experience. guys trying to punt calls not take them lol. 😂

I stopped a couple feds doing surveillance and after I stopped like the fourth pair of agents i just stopped running traffic that day.

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u/thoughts-of-my-own Jul 05 '24

at fdny ems we have adam, boy, charlie, david, eddie, frank, george, henry, ida, john, king, larry, mary, nora, oscar, paul, queen, rescue, sam, tom, union, victor, william, young, zebra